G-7000 vs 8080(or 9090) and Eight/Eight Deluxe

Harvey/ Ga

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Looking to get another Sansui for the living room system-to-be.

I presently have the G-7000 connected to my W-60E's and wonder how the Sansui experts rate the 8080 vs the Eight or Eight Deluxe....and any real differences between the two Eights.

Merry Christmas to all!!!
 
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The Eight and Eight Deluxe have totally different amplifier sections. So yes, there is a difference. The 8080 and 8080DB have more power and between the two, I prefer the DB. It has a newer amplifier design and more power over the 8080.

All the alternatives you mentioned will sound different from your G-7000. Only you can decide which you like. You really can't go wrong with any of them. The fun of this hobby is discovery. Look and see what comes your way and try it out.

- Pete
 
The Eight and Eight Deluxe have totally different amplifier sections. So yes, there is a difference. The 8080 and 8080DB have more power and between the two, I prefer the DB. It has a newer amplifier design and more power over the 8080.

All the alternatives you mentioned will sound different from your G-7000. Only you can decide which you like. You really can't go wrong with any of them. The fun of this hobby is discovery. Look and see what comes your way and try it out.

- Pete
Thanks, Pete...
From lurking here, I tended to favor the Eight Deluxe, but wondered about the DB board in the 8080. If it's a better, less trouble prone amp, then I'll look for that as well.
 
The Eight Deluxe is a highly collectable receiver. Not many of them were made and as a result often costs more than a sane person should pay. The 8080DB was one of the most popular receivers Sansui ever made and real bargains can be found. The Dolby board issue does occur but not nearly as often as people seem to think. It gets blamed every time one of these receivers drops a channel. Most of these issues can be cured with a good cleaning.

- Pete
 
Looking to get another Sansui for the living room system-to-be.

I presently have the G-7000 connected to my W-60E's and wonder how the Sansui experts rate the 8080 vs the Eight or Eight Deluxe....and any real differences between the two Eights.

Merry Christmas to all!!!
The G-7000 is the new generation Sansui exclusive DC amplifier. In many ways it will outperform the 8080, Eight and Eight Deluxe. But it has a very tight and crisp sound the others will not have. If you listen to old midrange heavy recordings you will want an 8080 or either Eight. I have had an 8080 and a G-8000/4700/3500/4500 and all G-series have a much different sound than the classic 1970-1979 Sansui amplifiers. The G-series and the 1978-1984 AU-series are by comparison the same as far as sound reproduction. The Eight, 2000a/x 3000a, 5000a/x 551-881, 5050-9090 will have a much more tempered and warmer sound. When buying any of these decide more crisp, digital type sound or classic warmer sound. Then pick a power output and buy it.
 
You know that you are responding to a thread with no replies for 12 years before yours...
You know that you are responding to a thread with no replies for 12 years before yours...
Yes actually I did know that. But having run more than 20 different Sansui models, I thought a current opinion may be helpful to any who travel through this site. and if I act get a current response to my post, I could help someone make an informed decision on which Sansui to buy.
 
Yeah it's not like the subject is irrelevant because some years have passed.

Lots of good information is buried in old threads: plus the new forum software prompts you with related content, bringing them back from the dead

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I think passive aging does not affect them that much, if stored at room temperature and stable humidity (fuse resistors). I have several sporadically used untouched originals, they all work fine (I checked them also, offset, bias all OK).
 
I couldn't disagree more. It's totally dependent on the temperature and humidity of how it is stored. These units wind up in basements, attics, garages and sheds. None of these spaces are temperature and humidity controlled. High temperatures will degrade the caps and humidity will degrade all the switch contacts. In many cases a working unit when put into storage is totally dead when taken out of storage.

- Pete
 
I couldn't disagree more. It's totally dependent on the temperature and humidity of how it is stored. These units wind up in basements, attics, garages and sheds. None of these spaces are temperature and humidity controlled. High temperatures will degrade the caps and humidity will degrade all the switch contacts. In many cases a working unit when put into storage is totally dead when taken out of storage.

- Pete
Isn't this exactly what I said?
 
I think passive aging does not affect them that much, if stored at room temperature and stable humidity (fuse resistors). I have several sporadically used untouched originals, they all work fine (I checked them also, offset, bias all OK).

A controlled environment will slow down the aging process but it doesn't stop it. If we are talking about buying one of these nearly 50 year old pieces you have no way of knowing how it was stored/used/not used during that time. It would be the rare piece that spent that 50 years in a controlled environment.

This thread is comparing the sound signature of 4 different pieces. The odds of proper storage of 4 units are exceeding small.

That said, I've been using an all original, unrestored AU-555A for the sound system connected to this computers for the past nearly 20 years. It's on almost every day and now that I'm retired its on almost all day every day. It still sounds good but it's more than 50 years old. Although the sound quality is very good I will guarantee you it doesn't sound as good as when it was new or as good as one that has been restored. I will also guarantee you that if you put 4 unrestored AU-555As next to each other you would hear variations in sound quality.

When buying vintage audio equipment, the piece that has been kept in a controlled environment and used on a regular basis will sound the best.

- Pete
 
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