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Garrard 440M turntable - worthy or crap model?

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I'm looking at a listing for $35 for a Garrard 440M turntable supposedly in good working order. Worth $35? Is this a budget, bottom-of-the-line TT or is it a reasonable model. It looks to be an older direct drive turntable. I would look to use a Shure MX97e cartridge or similar with it - would this be a good match? Would this turntable track well enough?

I used to have a nice Garrard turntable - I don't recall the model but it was belt-drive and had a big oak wood base, less plastic than this model. thanks for any information.

http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/ele/283623401.html
 
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Unless you can't wait, hold out for something better. I would rather spend a 100 on something nice, than $30 on, well you know.
 
Thanks. Yeah, I'm holding out for something better for a primary TT. This would just be something for a 2nd or 3rd system - and this unit probably won't stick around, but I picked it up this morning for $25. Lots more plastic than I expected from Garrard - this must be BOTL - but a decent enough looking tonearm.
 
Not utterly trash, but pretty junky from a hi-fi perspective. Yes I believe it was BOTL of its era (mid-1970's).
Now, if you see a Garrard 301 or 401 for $35... you might wanna pick that up.
 
Did it have a nice cartridge? I don't buy into you have to replace the Cartridge right away. Play a couple of records, and if it sounds good, than you should be good to go for a while. $25 in nice condition isn't bad. I paid $25 a Dual 1257 recently, and I sold it for $80 a month later. It had a nice, modest Emprire 7 Cartridge.
 
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Did it have a nice cartridge? I don't buy into you have to replace the Cartridge right away. Play a couple of records, and if it sounds good, than you should be good to go for a while. $25 in nice condition isn't bad. I paid $25 a Dual 1257 recently, and I sold it for $80 a month later. It had a nice, modest Emprire 7 Cartridge.

Thanks for the reminder. I set the unit aside for later, and I didn't even take a close look at the cart until now. The labeling underneath says:

Pickering V-15 /AT-4 ... and the stylus component has "DJ" on it.

I don't know Pickering - and can't tell if this cartridge is any good. "DJ" sounds like a red flag to me - I hope that this unit has not suffered DJ use. I guess I should play a few records, as you suggest and do some research. thanks
 
I have a Technics SL-1300 as my main turntable. Had a Garrard 440m as a family TT in my upstairs. It has worked flawlessly for 40 years. All depends what you need in a turntable. I like the vintage look. It is hooked up with an early Kenwood and Zenith 360 degree speakers, very cool vintage sound.

Remember, always burn the vinyl it is classic sound :)
 
(in 2010) who dared to awaken this slumbering thread?

I'm awakening it again.

A school in our neighborhood has a large collection of classical music LP records, in superb condition. They were a donation from a parent. I got a phone call from the school this week; they could not find their record player, and thought somebody threw it away. They wanted something that could play their records, preferably automatically, through their A/V receiver, which fortunately has a phono stage. And they wanted it cheap.

I found a Garrard 440 for next to nothing at a junk shop which wanted $10 for it; but when I showed them that the platter was frozen...would not even turn if you pushed it...they reduced the price to $2 "since we'll throw it away if you don't take it." Fair enough.

This one really is a junker. The overarm is missing and the old Garrard grease has ossified. In such condition it is a simple but extensive process to restore these Garrards to function. First to get attention was the platter, since it would have to come off to service the motor, the idler wheel and the trip mechanism. The platter would...not...budge. I put some oil onto its center, where it rotates, and it didn't do anything. I sprayed it with PB Blaster, a butyl cellosolve-based penetrant. An hour later the platter was still stuck fast.

I took my cheap soldering iron, plugged it in, and stuck it into the hole in the center shaft. Then I went to have a cup of coffee. When I got back the soldering iron had softened the old, dried grease and the platter lifted right off.

The rest of the process was to get to every pivot and linkage and see that it was free to operate. This series of Garrard, the "Unimech," is difficult to totally disassemble because its mechanical subchassis connects to everything else on the entire record changer. If the linkages can be serviced in situ, so much the better. With the extensive use of flexible nozzles and needle oilers bent to shape, I was able to do it.

As I said: this Garrard 440 is missing its overarm, probably because somebody else tried to fix it before, and lost it; so it can't be restored as a record changer. That's OK; it will make a perfectly good single-play automatic when all is fettled.

Luckily the cartridge doesn't need replacement. It's the stock Pickering V-15/ATE-4 whose stylus is still good under my microscope, and in listening tests in a Stanton 500 body on my Garrard Lab 80.

The school should have its "new-old" Garrard next week. I'll probably GIVE it to them for free.
 
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