Sonance'84
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I hope so too, I gave my friend cash and he used his Visa for me.
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H.H. Scott 222c modified by Mapleshade
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I hope so too, I gave my friend cash and he used his Visa for me.
Mike Stehr
Poverty Audio
I would be livid after that phone call.
Let it linger and you'll wind up keeping it
Ask me how I know
Hint: I suffered a similar learning curve
That is why I am being so adamant when I tell you, if you are unhappy right now right this minute about anything surrounding this amp
SEND IT BACK TODAY!
There still remains too many unaddressed issues in your mind, this is NOT the way to start out
You will never be completely secure with this buying decision and that is going to intrude on any enjoyment this thing can give and that sucks
Even if you keep it for 100 years it will ALWAYS annoy you and you will forever be listening for problems rather than to music
And it doesn't matter what those jokers tell you
I'm telling you, I know this for a fact, the hard way :yes:
Jim
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I'd like to thank Sonance for sticking with this thread, I'm sure it wasn't easy.
When I first stepped into this realm it was a little daunting and seemed like a gamble. I had a grand to spend on a vintage amp and I asked the AK opinion mill. After some spirited debate it was decided that I should get an MC240. Good advice for which I am greatful.
Also I'd like to thank Sonance for his commitment to finding out the reality of the Mapleshade unit and his honest appraisal of it.
I would suggest returning it. For the price and the hype it should be flawless, the scratchy control would have sealed that decision for me. The longer you listen to it, the less likely you are to want to turn it loose.
When I first stepped into this realm it was a little daunting and seemed like a gamble. I had a grand to spend on a vintage amp and I asked the AK opinion mill. After some spirited debate it was decided that I should get an MC240. Good advice for which I am greatful.
Also I'd like to thank Sonance for his commitment to finding out the reality of the Mapleshade unit and his honest appraisal of it.
I would suggest returning it. For the price and the hype it should be flawless, the scratchy control would have sealed that decision for me. The longer you listen to it, the less likely you are to want to turn it loose.
Sonance, send it back. You have a noisy pot, cruddy input jacks, a "selection" of tubes and the Mapleshade owner who appears to be less than accommodating. Plus, you are out $1300 and shipping. Undoubtedly, you may experience other problems in the future.
Several years ago, I began to actively monitor Epay for Scott tubed equipment. After a few months, a buy it now offering popped up one morning for a Scott 222C and a Scott 350B tuner at a price that seemed to be almost too good to be true. After a few questions to the owner, I took the plunge. About a week later, both pieces arrived, well packaged and double boxed. Both pieces were in excellent - excellent+ condition. There was a complete set of Telefunken tubes in each piece.
Both were sent off to a well known professional who posts and advertises here on AK, for safety checks, safety mods and an alignment of the tuner. All the pots and controls are noise free. The input jacks are clean and form tight connections and, I have retained the Telefunken magic.
The tube magic was/is intoxicating. With patience and some luck, you will find some great tube equipment and after restoration, you will have spent far less than what you have in the Mapleshade amp.
Of course, as with the other opinions voiced here so far, your mileage may vary, but not by much. Good luck!
Several years ago, I began to actively monitor Epay for Scott tubed equipment. After a few months, a buy it now offering popped up one morning for a Scott 222C and a Scott 350B tuner at a price that seemed to be almost too good to be true. After a few questions to the owner, I took the plunge. About a week later, both pieces arrived, well packaged and double boxed. Both pieces were in excellent - excellent+ condition. There was a complete set of Telefunken tubes in each piece.
Both were sent off to a well known professional who posts and advertises here on AK, for safety checks, safety mods and an alignment of the tuner. All the pots and controls are noise free. The input jacks are clean and form tight connections and, I have retained the Telefunken magic.
The tube magic was/is intoxicating. With patience and some luck, you will find some great tube equipment and after restoration, you will have spent far less than what you have in the Mapleshade amp.
Of course, as with the other opinions voiced here so far, your mileage may vary, but not by much. Good luck!
There are plenty of vacuum tube amplifiers that give that sense of depth and realism. You shouldn't have to fuss with worn out corroded RCA jacks and scratchy volume pots. I'm sure the Scott is a fine amp and has a lot of potential, but Mapleshade ought to have completely refurbished the unit if they're going to sell it for that kind of price. I'm not in the business of selling amps, but I've built and rebuilt a few. I'll keep the tubes, chassis and the transformers but everything else gets replaced. Fifty year old caps, resistors, switches, pots, and sockets all go in the trash. Phenolic circuit boards are no good by now, and must be replaced with good quality FR-4 boards. If the insulation on old wiring is brittle and cracked, new wiring is probably in order. I've never spent $1300 on any one of the amps I've owned, and if I had I would expect an awful lot from it.
Sonance'84
moe.ron
Lots of external pics...
Sonance'84
moe.ron
Internal electronics...
Sonance'84
moe.ron
Tubes...
Let me know what you all think.
Let me know what you all think.
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Sonance'84
moe.ron
RCA dirt...
So, I cleaned the RCA inputs with 99% alcohol and q-tips and was amazed at how much crap came off with just the little work I did. These pics are of after a few seconds of work. Also, I kinda squeezed the RCA's on my SL1200 to make better contact with the input. The two things combined made then hum/buzz go away and I can listen to LP's finally. I'm going to send it back first thing Monday morning. It's too hard not to listen to it for a few days while I have it.
So, I cleaned the RCA inputs with 99% alcohol and q-tips and was amazed at how much crap came off with just the little work I did. These pics are of after a few seconds of work. Also, I kinda squeezed the RCA's on my SL1200 to make better contact with the input. The two things combined made then hum/buzz go away and I can listen to LP's finally. I'm going to send it back first thing Monday morning. It's too hard not to listen to it for a few days while I have it.
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Sonance'84
moe.ron
I'd LOVE for someone to do that for me, but I don't think anybody around here would/could do that. If I lived in Kansas I'd bring it over right now.
jaymanaa
RIP 1961-2018
I applaud the way you have handled the whole situation. This must have been a grueling couple weeks for you. I would also add that Mapleshade isn't alone in poor quality resto service. I think it would be awfully hard for me to make any money doing stuff the way I do it. On a typicall integrated like the 299, I would end up well over 40 hours most of the time.
apurcell22
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:thumbsdn:I would call B.S. those electrolytics are stock. He is a liar and a thief. I will never do business with them. Sorry you have to deal with this. My vote would be to send it back.
Al
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