Help with an oddball Shure M100W stereo with Dual 1009 TT inside, check photos

In the print ad that I found describing the unit, Shure wrote that "Because of the detailed craftsmanship, large amount of hand-labor, and rigid quality control...". They weren't kidding.
 
malden said:
The V15 Type l with its original VN2E is not a good cartridge for that tone-arm. If you do find a V15 Type l, use a Shure N44-7 or N44E stylus.

The VN2E is too compliant for the heavy (solid aluminum) cartridge body of the original V15 Type l. This, along with the 1009 tone-arm will wreak havoc on the stylus suspension.

This is by far the best available stylus for the V15 Type l...

https://www.jico-stylus.com/product...cts_id=1012&osCsid=ukej0acd66lg0tk6humf7vqn35
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Thanks for the tips!
 
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And also, the M 44-G is actually a better behaved platform than the V 15 first model was. Shure however did fix that before too long, and the V 15 Type II.
 
KentTeffeteller said:
And also, the M 44-G is actually a better behaved platform than the V 15 first model was. Shure however did fix that before too long, and the V 15 Type II.
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I tried numerous cartridges including a M44G (current production), in my Technics SL 1800 MK2 but it did not work well. Heard quite a bit of sibilance that none of the other produced. I think it's too compliant for most tone-arms.

That said, the M55E may be too compliant as well. I'd stick with the M44E or M44-7.
 
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Thanks for the suggestions on cartridge choice. I'll be checking them out in a few weeks when it's time to find a good spot for it in our home.

I messaged Shure (on FB) about this piece and they are forwarding my information to their in-house historian (kind of cool that they have one)!
 
malden,

I actually agree highly with you that this is the optimum application for a Shure M 44-7. That cartridge was perfect for a Dual 1009 tonearm. That combination works great together. And would be what I'd install in one of these if I owned one.
 
Got a response from the Shure Historian; seems the unit was never profitable and was dropped after extremely low sales (not a surprise). His hunch is that fewer than 500 were sold. They have 3 in their archives, and he said that they are, indeed, rare to find in good condition.

A quote about the end of the series: "I do know the profit margin was very small because the manufacturing costs were higher than expected. Also, as Shure cartridges were installed on so many difference brands of turntables and hi-fi systems, it is likely Mr. Shure decided that we should not be a competitor to these brands by offering the M100 series."

He was also kind enough to forward to me a complete pdf of the original owner's manual, an owner's manual for the Dual 1009, a copy of Shure's complete specs on the unit (even with an explanation of what each spec meant), and a copy of High Fidelity Magazine's Nov 1964 test of the unit.

Pretty awesome all around.
 
For those who were interested in this unit, I have had it running pretty much 5 times a week for the past 2 months and it performs flawlessly.

It certainly paid off to disassemble the motor of the 1009 and oil it up, it was BONE dry in there. Spins nicely and keeps excellent speed.
Although I was warned about it being plastic and brittle, I was not terribly careful and wound up snapping off the 16RPM tip on the speed thingy (I don't know the correct term for it, it mounts to the motor).
Got into the speaker cabinets and replaced the caps in the crossover. The woofers are Utah units, and really don't reach very deep for an 8 inch, but I haven't the heart to replace them.

Thanks to all for the tips and interest.

Unit is presently blasting Rush's 2112 (side 1) and it's doing a great job reproducing the trebly top of Geddy's bass lines.
 
I'm glad you got it up and running. I'm using a 1009 in my office system and like it much better than the Miracord 45 I had been previously using.

Don't be afraid to replace those Utah speaker drivers, think of them the way you thought about the capacitors, aged and obsolete. The cabinets are really the gem in that system...:thumbsup:

Parts Express has some great drivers and crossovers to make that system come alive. If you give them the box size, they will recommend the appropriate drivers.
 
malden said:
I'm glad you got it up and running. I'm using a 1009 in my office system and like it much better than the Miracord 45 I had been previously using.

Don't be afraid to replace those Utah speaker drivers, think of them the way you thought about the capacitors, aged and obsolete. The cabinets are really the gem in that system...:thumbsup:

Parts Express has some great drivers and crossovers to make that system come alive. If you give them the box size, they will recommend the appropriate drivers.
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My wife had a similar sentiment, in that if we never intend to sell the system (which we don't), why would we care how original it is?

I'll most likely wind up getting some nicer 8" drivers and for sure a pair of tweeters. Luckily, I've got some experience building crossovers so I can tailor them to the acoustics in the (very reflective) room the stereo is in.
 
Awesome, that baby needs to sing !

When you have time, start a thread in the "speaker" forum to get some suggestions from some of the knowledgeable members there.
 
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