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Help with pricing Canon with lots of stuff!!

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gamalot

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Just hoping someone here might be able to give some idea what I should be expecting this kit to bring on Ebay or at private sale.

Everything is fully functional with absolutely no dents, digs, scratches and not even much use. If there is 5 rolls thru the camera, thats alot.

I bought this all new to photograph Eagles at a local viewing sight and then quickly lost intrest.

Canon EOS 650 body with date back.

Canon Zoom EF 35-70MM 1:3.5-4.5

Canon Zoom EF 75-300MM 1:4-5.6

Canon 300 EZ speedlight flash

Celestron C-5 telescope 1250MM with all the adapters to fit the camera and a device I think they call a hot shoe shutter release. Also there are three Eye pieces with the telescope for viewing with out the camera.

Bogen Tripod with quick detach plate.

I have a leather Vanguard case for the camera w/ the small lense on and it also fits the flash unit plus film and book pockets. I have a hard tube lense case for the 75-300 lense and I have a very substantial Doscosil Waterproof foam lined case for the celestron C-5 telescope and all its gear. All the manuals and paper work for all the stuff as well as even the bills of sale for everything which are freightening! As you might be able to tell, I am not into photography, never did figure out how to use the camera and here it sits looking brand new and used a few time with terrible results- because of the user.
Any info will be appreciated on how I would price this equipment for sale at a fair price for both buyer and seller.
Thank you.
Gary
 
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CANON
35MM, EOS 650 QD BODY ONLY

Description: AF, SLR

Manufacture Years: 1987 - 1989


Additional Information:
F-stop:
Lens:




Click here for a definition of Bluebook prices.
Retail
MSRP: $700.00
USED: $240.00
Wholesale
Mint: $130.00
Average: $75.00

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CANON
EF, SPEEDLITE 300EZ FOR EOS

Description:

Manufacture Years: 1987 - 1989


Additional Information:
F-stop:
Lens:




Click here for a definition of Bluebook prices.
Retail
MSRP: $200.00
USED: $65.00
Wholesale
Mint: $35.00
Average: $19.00

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CANON
LENS, EF 35- 70mm f/3.5-4.5

Description:

Manufacture Years: 1987 - 1989


Additional Information:
F-stop: 3.5
Lens: ZOOM




Click here for a definition of Bluebook prices.
Retail
MSRP: $275.00
USED: $95.00
Wholesale
Mint: $50.00
Average: $28.00

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CANON
LENS, EF 75-300mm f/4.0-5.6

Description:

Manufacture Years: 1991 - 1993


Additional Information:
F-stop: 4.0
Lens: ZOOM




Click here for a definition of Bluebook prices.
Retail
MSRP: $425.00
USED: $140.00
Wholesale
Mint: $75.00
Average: $42.00

________________________________________________________________

Well there's your bluebook values. If I was looking to sell I'd be doing it FAST. The prices for used 35mm gear is dropping like a stone with the advent of the prosumer digital SLR's.

Mike
 
ProAc_Fan said:
If I was looking to sell I'd be doing it FAST. The prices for used 35mm gear is dropping like a stone with the advent of the prosumer digital SLR's.

Mike
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What Mike said. You should see what used medium format gear sells for these days. One of my friends picked up a mint Bronica 645 system with two backs and two lenses for $350 about six months ago. I took a beating when I sold my Hasselblad 501/CM system a couple of years ago.

Frankly, the bluebook prices quoted for the EOS 650 sound high to me. I think you'll be doing well to get $140 retail for the camera body. The lens prices are realistic, as they'll work with the Digital Rebel and EOS 20D.
 
Thanks for the straight info Proac Fan & Photobitstream.
I do appreciate your time and efforts and I am glad it will not cost me a penny more to just keep it here safe and sound and sell it many, many years from now as "Like New Antique Photo Gear".
What a shame because it is all like brand new and I still have the original boxes it all came in. I did get better deals then the MSRPs on all of it but not that much better.
I was just thinking about unloading some stuff I never use and have lost interest in but not if I will take that much of a hosing on it.
Back to the closet it goes with all batteries out for safe storage.
 
Photobitstream said:
Frankly, the bluebook prices quoted for the EOS 650 sound high to me. I think you'll be doing well to get $140 retail for the camera body. The lens prices are realistic, as they'll work with the Digital Rebel and EOS 20D.
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I agree that the Bluebook prices are too high. The 650 body will fetch maybe $125 - $140 and drop about 10% off the lens prices. Anything better is a bonus. You might do better if someone gets into a bidding war but I wouldn't count on that.

The 650 and those lenses are very good cameras but heavy and slow compared to new cameras and lenses. One can get a NEW Rebel Ti body for under $200 and the newer lenses are much faster focusing and ligher. (Notice I did not say the new stuff was better.) Used prices have receded faster than my hairline, which is pretty darned rapid. Only some of the professional-grade models are holding their own, and not by the margins they once enjoyed.

With luck you might :thmbsp: sell higher than your hopes. :yes:
 
I've been considering picking up a used EOS film body, but I haven't really made up my mind. I've already got a pretty good assortment of lenses. The 650 is one of the bodies I've looked at. They're pretty plentiful and available on the used market for about $80-$100. KEH has several listed. E-bay might be the way to get the most for it. It's a bit risky, so hard to say.

I'm mildly interested in the body, and perhaps the 75-300 also, but I'm also fairly broke right now.

Jason
 
Thanks Jason but at those prices I will keep it for another day when I might have the time to get back into it.
Guess I had no idea this stuff lost all its value on the way out the shop door.
If I ever need camera stuff, the last thing I will do is to buy it new and pay full price when all I have to do is find it used at a 75% discount.
I have easily well over $2000 invested here and would have a hard time getting $400 and I took three 24 exposure rolls of pictures thru it. I guess I have to wonder why anyone would pay the high prices for nice cameras new when it is right here in black and white how they don't hold any value.
The auto mode on this is fantastic and dummy proof, when I switched into the big telescope lense and had to make manual settings is where I was wasting film and got discouraged.
 
That 35-70/3.5-4.5 is no slouch of a lens. I had one years ago, and a couple photos made with it adorn the walls at home. It always gave sharp, detailed slides with great color and contrast. 35-70's are considered boring as far as zoom ranges go, but the focal lengths covered are quite useful. The 1st-generation 28-70 was also excellent, and the original 35-105/3.5-4.5 was downright stunning. Too distorted for architecture work, but for most subjects it was a gem. I remember replacing that with a 28-105 Ultrasonic...I loved the faster USM focusing and extra range, but it wasn't quite as sharp as the old 35-105. Great old optic.

TP, old Canon-head (owned many a Nikon piece too...loved my N8008s...)
 
Unfortunately for you, the Canon USM lenses have driven down the price of the older lenses. I picked up a nice 80-200/2.8L non-USM lens for $400 last spring. Used 70-200/2.8L USM lenses fetch $800-$900, and cost $1,100 new. I sold my 70-200/4L USM lens for $375 after abusing it for four years. I paid $550 for it new.

The EOS 650 is a very capable camera, but everyone thinks they need digital these days. The truth is for people like you, who shoot very little, film makes more sense. The good news is if you decide you can't live without an EOS 20D you can use the lenses you have.
 
Basically I am not much of a photographer. I went out and bought a nikon coolpicx 950 for the digital stuff and it does fine but I still don't know how to use all the features on it.
I am one who has all the gadgets but no time or desire to read the manuals and learn how to use them. When I bought the canon I told the guy I wanted "Stupid proof" fully auto and the 650 EOS is all of that. With the lenses I bought it does almost all the photography I need in full auto and never a bad pic.
The bird watching lense/telescope is a totally different story. Taking stills was easy but the moving shots blew me away. I see these guys at football games with super lenses and think it looks easy enough! Well, It is not and all I was able to do is waste film.
Thanks for the heads up on my lenses fitting digital cameras, good to know!
Sometimes I have to laugh about stuff. If you buy an aluminum row boat today it costs you $600. Try to sell it tomarrow and you won't get $200.
So, what happened to it in a day of use????
 
I've been a professional photographer for 20 years and still cannot figure out how to use a Coolpix 950. Too complicated. Give me big ole manual controls and I'm fine. Give me little bitty buttons and I get frustrated :cry:
 
Gamalot,

Thanks. If I had read a little more carefully in the first place I would have seen that you didnt intend to sell. I didn't want to come across as trying to low-ball you, either.

I don't blame you a bit: If I don't really need the money, I'd rather sit on something than sell it for a lot less than I think it SHOULD be worth. That's really what's going on here. That's a nice camera and it SHOULD be worth quite a bit more than what they're bringing right now, IMO. The digital craze is driving down the prices, obviously. I love digital, but I don't see film going away, either. I use a Digital Rebel and have about 6 lenses for it. I've also got an older film SLR, but I wanted an EOS body so that I can use my newer lenses on it. As luck would have it, I bid on an EOS 650 on e-bay yesterday, and got it for $49.99! I was the only bidder. I'm looking forward to trying it out!

Jason
 
No Appology necessary Jason! When I started this thread I fully intended to sell it all. Then I got the "rude awakening" and decided against it rather quickly.
Glad to hear you scored a nice body at a great price and that you have the lenses already.
I might look into the digital rebel mentioned above in a year or two and be able to use my lenses on it.
The Nikon Coolpix 950 is a nice digital but extremly complicated and I need the book with me every time I snap a pic.
The way things go I should be able to score a Rebel D for next to nothing in a couple of years.
Happy shooting and thanks for all the great input from all, not what I wanted to hear in some respects but I do appreciate all the assistance.
Gary
 
pricing used equipment

gamalot said:
Just hoping someone here might be able to give some idea what I should be expecting this kit to bring on Ebay or at private sale.

Everything is fully functional with absolutely no dents, digs, scratches and not even much use. If there is 5 rolls thru the camera, thats alot.

I bought this all new to photograph Eagles at a local viewing sight and then quickly lost intrest.

Canon EOS 650 body with date back.

Canon Zoom EF 35-70MM 1:3.5-4.5

Canon Zoom EF 75-300MM 1:4-5.6

Canon 300 EZ speedlight flash

Celestron C-5 telescope 1250MM with all the adapters to fit the camera and a device I think they call a hot shoe shutter release. Also there are three Eye pieces with the telescope for viewing with out the camera.

Bogen Tripod with quick detach plate.

I have a leather Vanguard case for the camera w/ the small lense on and it also fits the flash unit plus film and book pockets. I have a hard tube lense case for the 75-300 lense and I have a very substantial Doscosil Waterproof foam lined case for the celestron C-5 telescope and all its gear. All the manuals and paper work for all the stuff as well as even the bills of sale for everything which are freightening! As you might be able to tell, I am not into photography, never did figure out how to use the camera and here it sits looking brand new and used a few time with terrible results- because of the user.
Any info will be appreciated on how I would price this equipment for sale at a fair price for both buyer and seller.
Thank you.
Gary
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Have you tried KEH.com, the mega used equipment store? You can see what you gear is worth if you had to buy it on the used market is various stages of condition from junk bin to AAAAA+. this should help you out.
 
Hey Gino, Thanks for the heads up but after hearing from those in the know here and I am sure they are correct. My gear can grow cobb webs in the closet.
It was a RUDE awakening but it taught me never to buy good NEW equipment ever again. Just wait a year or two and buy it slightly used for a fraction of what it cost.
I have heard this said about power boats, " Holes in the water that you toss money into and it ends up on the bottom". Camera gear should be in the boats glove box!
 
ginovino said:
Have you tried KEH.com, the mega used equipment store? You can see what you gear is worth if you had to buy it on the used market is various stages of condition from junk bin to AAAAA+. this should help you out.
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Have to disagree. KEH is trying to make back as much as possible in their used pricing. Trust me, at those prices they are selling little to nothing. Lenses will hold their value if they are AF lenses that are compatible with the new DSLR's. Ditto any of the accessories like the EX series of Canon flashes. However all but the most esoteric 35mm gear is now almost impossible to sell unless you're giving it away. I was in a very large camera store the other day ( Henry's Photo) and they must have had 40-50 very nice film SLR's in the display case. I asked the salesman how many they had sold recently at the asking prices on the camera's. He told me " None, are you kidding".

Mike
 
Pro Ac, I agree with you, Half the stuff I have is worth less then half of what I paid. The rest is worth absolutely nothing, Pay someone to take it away!
It is not used, was the best at time of purchase and is still as good as when new.
Like I said, I will keep this stuff till I die and if I never use it then fine. It worked great in 1999 and will work great in 2009 if I learn how to use it.

I have been laughing my butt off since I posted this thread and I really think any fool who sells his PERFECTLY GOOD EQUIPMENT AT ZERO PRICES IS A REAL FOOL.
It worked great in 1999 and will work just fine in 2009 at five times the cost.
Gary
 
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