How to modify a Technics turntable to play 78 rpm

eb2jim

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A lot of people wish that their two speed turntables were actually capable of playing 78 rpm discs. Some have large collections, and some have a small handful that got handed down or acquired. I have been lucky enough to have a stack that I got from my grandparents, plus a decent amount of early rock and some jazz 78’s. Over the years I have been also lucky enough to have a nice Dual 1219 that can spin them, and unlucky enough to come across rumbly, noisy cheap or ancient stuff that either does as much damage as playing, or produces a sound so bad it is neither listenable to or worth transferring to tape or digital file. Buying a turntable that has 78 can be a crapshoot of good to go, needs lots of work, or sounds like a train is in the background.

What I wished for was a way to take a nicer modern quiet turntable – belt or direct drive – and play my regular discs and then play my 78s when I was in the mood, with minimal effort. And with minimal rumble. Since you need to have a 78 cart and needle to do it correctly in the first place, a simple spare headshell swap would be the best option for me, so I thought of a popular Technics as a format. Headshells are available loads of places, and the deck often has a holder socket in back for a spare headshell and cartridge. For an example I selected the venerable SL-D2 with its solid build and its design being better suited for home use vs. club use. I was also aware that several places offered mods to Sl-1200’s and figured if it were possible for those, then maybe also for the cheaper and more plentiful used D2. I searched around and found the answer already existed. Popular Electronics had published an article in their April 1982 issue telling how to replace 45 rpm in favor of 78. I did not want to lose 45, so I altered the idea a bit, and here is how. This modification involves adding a simple 56k resistor, two lengths of wire, a bit of soldering, and drilling a discreetly hidden hole in the back for an added mini toggle switch – all available at your nearest Radio Shack. Don’t like any holes? Then you could have the switch exit the bottom and be not mounted or just sacrifice 45 like the original.

CAVEAT EMPTOR: First, if you have never figured out how to use a soldering iron safely or well, don’t do this. Find someone who is skilled, and ask them. Second if you do not have a decent workspace, and can be left alone for a bit, wait till you do. Thirdly, think ahead to how and where you will support, protect and work on the machine. Wear goggles when using solder. If you wreck your turntable, don’t blame me. If you get a blob of hot solder on your skin or cornea, blame yourself. Impatient, reckless and hasty? Buy one from somebody that does this.

I have done this with several, as have other AK’ers. The automatics from that period that have a 10” arm setting will be great candidates. I did this to an MCS 6700, which is my favorite Technics (so far) as it had 10” and could also stack, so I have a modern quiet direct drive automatic changer. The DD is a nice option as typically early belt drives used a mechanical lever to move the belt to a different position on the motor spindle. The change in diameter achieved 45 from 33. To add 78 would require a machine shop and not allow you to keep 45. Later belt drives can be modified as they changed speed by changing the motor speed. But that is for another thread. For this we modify a Technics DD. You can use SL-D1, D2, D5, 1650, 1950, MCS 6700, and many others. They all seem to follow the same pattern. You will have to investigate yours to see if it works. When you remove the bottom you will be able to figure it out.

The modification works in this manner: There are two sets of coils within the platter area. One applies torque to the platter; the other generates a position frequency signal. That signal is compared to a reference frequency set in the IC. Current to the drive coils is adjusted until the two frequency signals lock the speed. A direct current feedback path is part of this set up, and external to the IC. Different resistance is switched in and out of this feedback path to determine 33rpm or 45rpm. Typically 45 is dictated by R7 on the circuit board. The main pitch control zeroes speed in, and under the platter you can access the variable resistors which set the speeds in range for 33 and 45 by using a small screwdriver. When you solder a 56k resistor in parallel to R7 you get 78 rpm. You are just piggybacking it.

So, get your SL-D2 or similar era Technics direct drive and UNPLUG it. Remove the mat and pull the platter up and off, and set it aside. Lock the tonearm in place. On a nice clean towel (to protect the dustcover), flip over the unit on its dustcover and set it where you can work on it upside down. Remove the bottom panel, and keep track of all your screws and which feet go where – be neat and organized.

Next, locate R7 on the printed circuit board. Take one length of hookup wire and solder an end to one end of R7. Take a second equal length and to the same to the other end of R7. These two lengths of wire will be soldered to the center terminals of a DPDT mini toggle switch. Be careful - you aren't de-soldering R7 - just tapping a wire onto each end.

Some people prefer mini slide switches, as they can be hidden more discreetly on the bottom front, but are accessible by your fingertip. I prefer to locate a mini toggle on the back behind the arm, so I can reach over the machine and hit the switch when I want 78. In both cases the switch is hidden. You may not care, and want it right on top or on the front. Pick your location and style of switch for your own preferences, and just be sure that it doesn’t get in the way of something like the record, tonearm, platter, something already inside, etc.

On one end of the DPDT have your 56k resistor bridge the two end terminals. So, in one setting, the 56k resistor is completely out of the circuit and the turntable works as it always did. And in the other it gets thrown in parallel to R7, which speeds 45 up to 78rpm. Set the wires away from anything they may bind up on or get caught on – give yourself a good amount to find the side of the housing and feed it along there. Twist ties can help keep it where it belongs. Screw the bottom cover back, and flip it back over. You now simply have to adjust VR2 and VR1 to adjust the speeds general settings(* you can and may want to adjust VR1 and 2 from underneath so maybe hold off on the bottom replacement).

Setting the pitch control (VR3) to its midpoint, dial in 33 using a strobe disc (buy one, or print one out) and adjusting the under-platter speed adjusting variable resistor with a screwdriver. Then set the speed to 45 and do the same with the 45 speed adjusting vr. This is a trial and error process, and you can adjust the hidden vr's from top or bottom, so you can zero this in while watching a strobe disc. Typically if 45 is within range of the external pitch controls midpoint, you should be close on 78. Return the tonearm to shut off the machine, hit the toggle, and turn it on to spin the platter, which should now be spinning close to 78rpm. Using a strobe disc with 78rpm, you should be able to dial in 78 with the external pitch control.

Take your 78-rpm cartridge and headshell and swap them onto the tonearm, and play your 78s. HAVE FUN!!!

I used Radio Shack’s stranded hook up wire, a 275-614 DPDTmini toggle, and a 56 kilohm resistor from one of their packs. For the cart, it is subjective: I chose the Shure M78s as they were available brand new cheaply on Amazon as well as from many dealers and ebay. It is similar in size and weight to an M35c I had, so no worries about adjusting tracking. I mounted this in a standard headshell, and found Musicians Friend offered an almost identical Technics knockoff headshell for around $8. You can also find 78 needles for a surprising number of cartridges from over the years so certain classics have them available. If you wish a true mono vintage cart, they are still out there old and new, or you can bridge pins, buy a stereo-to-mono RCA plug adapter, etc.

I have done this several times, and I know other AK’er have as well. I have had one running 78 for quite a while, with no negative results. Let us know how it worked out for you.

Below is a pic to help you along.
 

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I am going to echo what Jim says. I have done this mod to my Technics SL-D2 and it's a great way for spinning 78s. The mod is very easy to do and cheap...I was surprised at how well it works.

In all, a fantastic way to make a 2-speed TT into a 3-speed deck!:tresbon:

Can my 1970's SL-1200 mk1 be modded in a similar way? That is a hell of a question!
 
SL-1200 MK2 mod possibilities

I downloaded the service manual and schematics for the Technics SL-1200 MK2 and have been staring at the motor control logic diagrams for the past couple of days. This TT uses a Panasonic AN6680 (IC201) chip to handle the phased locked loop for control of the rotational speed of TT. The speed is selected by grounding one of two pins on this chip. That in turn sets how fast the table spins based on the generated frequency pulse rate and the output of the position detection coil. The actual physical control of the speed of the TT is handled by the AN6675 (IC101) chip, but the IC201 chip tell that chip how fast to go. Unless the IC201 chip has some un-described pins that can be used set the 78 RPM speed, I do not see any way to modify the logic with the IC201 without a chip change. There apparently is no magic changing of a resistor that can effect a primary speed change to anything other than 33 or 45 RPMs as existed on the Technics SL-D2. It would be nice to have more information about the chips used in this TT.

That being said, there may be a way to do this with the pitch control logic associated with the AN6682 (IC301) chip and the various related resistors. The question is whether or not the pitch control login has enough range to made the TT spin at or near 78 RPM.

We shall continue out investigations... :music:

Bill
 
BILL!:thmbsp:

Do you have any circuit diagrams of the SL-1200 mk1 (not mark 2) for 78 mod? If not, where can I obtain them?

Tony.
 
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BILL!:thmbsp:

Do you have any circuit diagrams of the SL-1200 mk1 (not mark 2) for 78 mod? If not, where can I obtain them?

Tony.

Tony,

I am sorry, but I do not have service manuals or schematics for the SL-1200 MK1, nor do I have any modding information for that TT. My research has only been with the MK2 model. Have you tried to search the Internet for the manuals and schematics? You should be able to find them even if you have to pay for them. There does not appear to be a lot of differences between the MK1 and MK2. The most oblivious difference is, of course, the rotary pitch control on the MK1 versus the fader type pitch control on the MK2 and later versions. The electronics may be the same or similar between the two models, but I do not know that for sure.

Good luck finding what you need.

Bill :music:
 
Thanks for this thread. Is there a location on the board to add a resisitor to turn 33 into 78 and retain 45? Would the resistor still be the same value?
 
I haven't done that, but I suppose you could. I did do that with a belt drive, and used a potentiometer as a rheostat to induce resistance into the circuit. It gave a range of 0-100 or so RPM - all variable by turning the knob. That was loads of fun. It would have been great if I had Edison discs.
 
I just completed this mod to an SL-1700 (not Mk II). Looking at the schematics for both the SL-D3 and the SL-1700, they both use the same IC and pretty much the same PLL circuit. On the SL-1700 the series resistor at pin 24 of the chip is R10 - not R7 as on the SL-D2/D3. The value is slightly different but very close (I think it is 62K vs 68K ohms).

Since the 33 and 45 adjust and trim pots are BOTH switched to this resistor, lowering the value (adding the parallel resistor to it) will affect BOTH speeds. I added a slide switch just under the platter and located above the PCB. It fit there perfectly - I had to make a rectangular hole which was easy using a small file. The slide switch is actually accessible through one of the holes in the platter with the mat removed.

First, I set both the 33 and 45 adjustment pots at their center positions. Then I adjusted the trim pots so that both speeds were dead on. Then I connected a 20K resistor in series with a 50K trim pot, adjusted for a total of 56K ohms, and connected this across R10 using a 12" piece of 22 ga. zip cord. I set the turntable to 45 and turned it on. Using a strobe disc I could see that the resulting speed, although greater than 45 was still much less than 78 rpm. I turned the trim pot until I got it to 78 dead on.

I then removed the trim pot / resistor and measured the value - 22.9K ohms. I didn't have any 1% metal film resistors so I had to go through a few with a meter until I found one at 22.94K ohms - pretty close. I then mounted the switch on the top flange under the platter and wired the resistor and switch as described in the original post.

I put everything back together and fired it up and with the switch off the 33 and 45 are still dead on. When I move my new switch to 78 and set the front control to 45 it is very very close to 78. Really close enough not to bother but the 45 adjustment can be used to adjust it +/- 10%. This should be enough to cover pretty much any 78 I choose to play.

This was literally $3 worth of parts at Radio Shack and a couple of hours work. You can't even tell that this mod was done by looking at it but it is rock solid.

I imagine that this would work for the 1300, 1400, 1500, 1600, 1700, 1800, and all of their variants. However, the 1200 is a bit different since it has the quartz lock feature. I haven't looked at the schematic for the 1200 but it it could probably be done the same way - you just have to switch off the quartz lock.

Anyway, thanks for this info. I was ready to drop $300-400 on a dedicated 78 table and cart but was able to accomplish the same thing with a turntable I picked up for $25 a few months ago. I've got a Shure M78S for it and may experiment with a DIY pre-amp. I saved a boatload of money that can now go towards vinyl - or shellac...
 
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Most awesomest AK post in a year..

HANDS DOWN!

Everybody please stand and give a big round of applause for eb2jim!!!

Sticky!!!!
 
A bump to this most excellent thread... It is an answer to ALOT of folks who have been looking to do this. STICKY! PLEASE!! (pleeeeeeese!)
 
I just completed this mod to an SL-1700 (not Mk II) ...First, I set both the 33 and 45 adjustment pots at their center positions. Then I adjusted the trim pots so that both speeds were dead on. Then I connected a 20K resistor in series with a 50K trim pot, adjusted for a total of 56K ohms, and connected this across R10 using a 12" piece of 22 ga. zip cord. I set the turntable to 45 and turned it on. Using a strobe disc I could see that the resulting speed, although greater than 45 was still much less than 78 rpm. I turned the trim pot until I got it to 78 dead on.

I then removed the trim pot / resistor and measured the value - 22.9K ohms. I didn't have any 1% metal film resistors so I had to go through a few with a meter until I found one at 22.94K ohms - pretty close. I then mounted the switch on the top flange under the platter and wired the resistor and switch as described in the original post....

This doesnt make sense to me. The original post I understand, but can this optional mod be explained better?
I understand what dbf is doing, but issue here is that his numbers dont seem to add up, that, or I am totally missing something here. (VERY likely)
 
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I finally got around to modding an SL-1350 for 78 rpm, and the 56k value did not do the trick. I had to use a pot as a rheostat variable resistor to dial in 78 rpm, which is what dbf909 did, although I skipped the 56k resistor in the mix and just used a 100k ohm pot to get a wide enough range. I followed his advice and piggy backed it onto the resistor off pin 24. When I got 78rpm, I used the multimeter to check what the resistance was, then used the original method to wire up a hidden dpdt. As I hoped, flick the switch, you get 78rpm on 45. The other thing I did was get two of the same cart and Technics headshells, and the one I used for 78 I stuck a 2gm weight on the headshell. That way, when I pop on the 78 set up headshell, I do not have to adjust the counterweight. It just adds a couple of grams to track the 78s fine. I was spinning some Duke Ellington RCA 78s last night, and it sounded wonderful.

Now, I suspect that the 1200 and the 1300/1350 are electronic cousins (anyone able to compare?) and if I can mod the 1350 to be a 3 speed direct drive automatic changer, then a 1200 should work on 78 too. Too bad they cost so much these days! The parts to do a 78 mod are cheap, though.
 
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