HPA recommendations please

SteveJewels

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I am looking for a headphone amp for a rather special application;

RCA inputs
Balanced 4.4 mm output
runs on 12 VDC.

I have found something pretty close. The Topping A50 III has the RCAs and the balanced output but it runs on 15 VDC. I can get a step up to go from 12 VDC to 15 VDC so it would be possible to use the A50 III without too much difficulty. I am looking for alternatives before I go that route.

The ~ $200 price point would be ok.

The impedance of the earbuds is 14 Ohms.

Thanks!
 
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I just picked up a Fosi ZH3 that fits your rubric, with both RCA inputs and balanced 4.4mm balanced outputs, as well as a 6.35mm (1/4") TRS jack. It also has an onboard, AKM4493SEQ DAC with USB, COAX and Optical inputs, which I have not yet used. I'm using it as a power amp, with the gain dimed, and a Schiit Audio Bifrost 2/64 DAC, wired directly to my Plex Server via USB and connected to the amp via RCA. I have yet to use the DAC. It can also be used as a preamp, with balanced, XLR and single-ended, RCA outputs.

It also has swappable op amps on the output and ultimately, I'll try a pair of MUSES02 and Sparkos 3602 because I have them in my past bin and I'm curious, but 2 hours in, listening on a pair of KLH Ultimate One, 51mm Beryllium driver, 32Ω cans, I find the amp in its stock configuration to be quite neutral and pleasing, with a noise floor lower than my source. Pricing is also in the $200 ballpark; I got an open box return for much less.
 
Thank you @Gigantic

Looks interesting.

I have been skipping units that have a DAC figuring money spent on developing and deploying the DAC is money not spent on what I will use but I am finding the 12 VDC desirement rather limiting. I can rig up a 12 to 15 or something volt boost converter and regulate it down to 12 VDC but I am trying to avoid unneeded complexity.

It says the Fosi ZH3 is compatible with headphones that are from 16 to 300 Ohms. Mine are 14 Ohms. Audio-Technica ATH-IM04s.

RCA in, 4.4 mm balanced out, and at least something DC in are hard requirements.
 
Thank you @Gigantic

Looks interesting.

I have been skipping units that have a DAC figuring money spent on developing and deploying the DAC is money not spent on what I will use but I am finding the 12 VDC desirement rather limiting. I can rig up a 12 to 15 or something volt boost converter and regulate it down to 12 VDC but I am trying to avoid unneeded complexity.

It says the Fosi ZH3 is compatible with headphones that are from 16 to 300 Ohms. Mine are 14 Ohms. Audio-Technica ATH-IM04s.

RCA in, 4.4 mm balanced out, and at least something DC in are hard requirements.
I didn't want a DAC amp either. in a perfect world, I'd have a pure power amp, a couple watts and no preamp section or controls that I'd run off of my Freya +, which I began doing as a baseline. On its own, using my plex server as a source via USB, it blows my speaker DAC & pre out of the water and I've yet to mess with the op amps. Granted, prior experience with Fosi's Z_3 line, I own 6 ZD3 that are used as mono blocks to drive my 3 way horns and are modded with Burson V7 Vivid, Sparkos 3602 & Burson V7 Classic on the woofer, mids and tweeters, respectively and I'm quite impressed with them. That, and finding one open box model at 40% off and it was a no brainer. I'm new to dedicated headphone setups, but to my ears, this sounds very good and effortlessly drives my 32Ω KLH Ultimate One open-back headphones.
 
FiiO K7 has a DAC but it checks all the boxes. 12 VDC, RCA in, 4.4 mm balanced out, 1 Ohm output impedance.
 
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Is a battery powered portable HPA an option for you?

If yes, there are many HPA options available.
 
I didn't want a DAC amp either. in a perfect world, I'd have a pure power amp, a couple watts and no preamp section or controls that I'd run off of my Freya +, which I began doing as a baseline. On its own, using my plex server as a source via USB, it blows my speaker DAC & pre out of the water and I've yet to mess with the op amps. Granted, prior experience with Fosi's Z_3 line, I own 6 ZD3 that are used as mono blocks to drive my 3 way horns and are modded with Burson V7 Vivid, Sparkos 3602 & Burson V7 Classic on the woofer, mids and tweeters, respectively and I'm quite impressed with them. That, and finding one open box model at 40% off and it was a no brainer. I'm new to dedicated headphone setups, but to my ears, this sounds very good and effortlessly drives my 32Ω KLH Ultimate One open-back headphones.
I have been continuing to listen to the ZH3 in its stock configuration and it continues to impress. I may actually prefer it as a DAC/Amp than using my Schitt Bifrost 2/64 & Freya + as the front end. It's really remarkably neutral sounding and makes my KLH Ultimate One cans sound similar to my 3-way horns with regard to frequency response, sensitivity and dynamics, and edges them out with even better phase response, soundstage and imaging. I have a pair of MUSES02 op amps and a pair of Sparkos 3602 that I will eventually roll into it, but unlike my ZA3 mono amps, I haven't found a need. While the ZA3 sounded decent, but slightly "off" compared to the Class A/B amps I own, the ZH3 sounds really good out of the box. It has 6 oddly named filters that describe the sound, rather than the filter topology: Pwr. Dyn, or Powerful, Dynamic, with a sharp roll-off; Neutral. Bal, or Neutral Balanced, with a slow rolloff, ; Ext. Highs or Extended highs, with with a short delay & sharp roll-off for detailed highs; Well Deff, or Well Defined with a short delay and slow roll off for clear & well defined sound; Nat Smooth, or Natural Smooth with a super-slow roll off for a natural and smooth delivery; and Precis Analy or Precise & Analytic, with low dispersion for a precise & analytical delivery. After very briefly trying these filters, I opted for "Neutral Balanced" and haven't done much else. It also has bass and treble tone controls and a tone circuit bypass, which I have engaged.

All and all, I find this to be a rather pleasing DAC/HPA; granted, it's my first, so my frame of reference is limited to my mothers' Marantz receivers and Koss 4AA Pro headphones that I used as a child in the 70's, various earbuds that I used with phones and iPod Shuffles in the first two decades of this century, as well as the headphone output on my current AVR, using cheap Tascam headphones that I used as tracking monitors in my home studio, neither of which ever presented a compelling use case for headphones and a dedicated amp. I might actually be starting to get it now. I'm homebound, recovering from surgery and I've spent more time with cans on my head than listening to speakers, in part because my partner works from home 4 days out of the week, sitting just 8 feet behind me in my MLP, but I've also been listening to them because they're just so darned pleasant sounding! It's really quite nice.

My next steps will be to try the XLR outputs for the DAC and compare it to my Schiit Bifrost 2/64 through my Freya +, and also as a standalone preamp/DAC, directly into my DSP pre/processor. After that, I'll roll op amps, which appears to be an even easier process than on the ZA3s, removing just 2 screws, sliding out the front a little & disconnecting a pair of ribbon cables, then sliding out the back to access the op amp sockets, reversing the process to close it up. Easy peasy.
 
Last solicitation before I pull the trigger.

I have not found anything that fits the requirements better then the FiiO K7.

Any more inputs please?
 
Get the FiiO, it's a good midrange HPA at an entry-level price. It is said to produce clean sound at bone-shattering levels, but I don't know which bones it is supposed to shatter: the tiny bone set behind the eardrums, or the jawbone (unlikely). I wouldn't advise trying to find out.
 
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