janikphoto
Lunatic Member
how would a 10% solution react to the vinyl? I'd bet all the bubbles would help dislodge dirt, but I'm sure there's a scientific reason why people aren't using it to clean records!
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Hydrogen Peroxide on vinyl?
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62vauxhall
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Never thought about it but if I did and got curious, I'd experiment with a trashed or undesirable LP and see what happened.
Poinzy
Super Member
It would probably be no more effective than plain water at breaking chemical bonds.
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phantomrebel
Serial Tapist
Actually, PVC-PVA polymers are resistant to peroxides so this isn't a bad idea. Some preservationists use it as a bleaching agent to remove yellowing on white plastics and your dentist uses it to whiten teeth. The issue is what we are trying to achieve when cleaning our records. Peroxide does not remove contaminants by itself. It has antiseptic properties along with it's action as an oxidizer, but you need to combine with a detergent to solubilize and remove the inorganic and organic contaminants found on records. That said, some contaminants are more soluble once oxidized, so its inclusion in a detergent wash mix is not that far off, just ask Billy Mays. Wait...he's dead.
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welcomdmat
Super Member
It is basically H2O2 that is used to clean contacts, isn't it?
I know that those are generally short term use, but they are also very fragile. What would the lost O2 do to the vinyl?
* Kind of slow with the above comment coming in first and making mine unnecessary *
I know that those are generally short term use, but they are also very fragile. What would the lost O2 do to the vinyl?
* Kind of slow with the above comment coming in first and making mine unnecessary *
Blue Shadow
Waiting for Vintage Gear from this century
10% strength H2O2 or are you talking about a 10% solution made from the 3% that you can buy at the drug store?
10% peroxide is not something to mess with. 70% sure it is much more powerful but it will cause permanent eye damage in under 10 seconds.
Fortunately, it is hard to get 10% peroxide.
10% peroxide is not something to mess with. 70% sure it is much more powerful but it will cause permanent eye damage in under 10 seconds.
Fortunately, it is hard to get 10% peroxide.
Bubbalouie
Audiophilia Maximus
I use a mixture of distilled water, the highest percentage of isopropyl alcohol I can find, and a very small amount of dish washing liquid. This has worked well for me for over five years now.
Blue Shadow
Waiting for Vintage Gear from this century
Peroxide and dish soap are ingredients used to make homemade skunk shampoo. So washing your records in this should leave them smelling April fresh.
As long as you use the April Fresh dish soap. If you use the Lemon Scented, you'll get that smell. I guess one could use the proper soap to set the mood for the record when it is pulled out of the sleeve.
Peroxide and dish soap are ingredients used to make homemade skunk shampoo. So washing your records in this should leave them smelling April fresh.
I bet the skunks hate getting a bath, though.
janikphoto
Lunatic Member
Not the standard 3%, but actual 10% peroxide. I've read that you can get up to 35% solutions (10% and 35% ratios are available for science uses), though the higher numbers can't be shipped through the post office. Numbers higher than 35% get closer to jet fuel ratios, and I've never seen it available.
Killer Fox
Super Member
Might help with mold spots I have been having trouble removing.
Blue Shadow
Waiting for Vintage Gear from this century
Standard industrial strengths are 35, 50 and 70% and can be purchased by the truck load. Special use, frequently government, is 90% and not readily available. Amazingly reactive all of them.
I didn't know that 10% was readily available but checked the MSDS and it talks about the same issues (health and safety) that the higher strength products mention. The shipment by USPS are limited to less than 20% strength and limited quantities, bottles not barrels, I'd guess.
Blue Shadow
Waiting for Vintage Gear from this century
Maybe there should be rules on what can and can't be on MP3. Not that I have hear Hydrogen Peroxide on that format but I have heard some waste of bits and bytes. But to each his own.Hydrogen Peroxide were previously only available on mp3...
dogwan
Dogwan
Have been doing it for years. No adverse effects that I'm aware of. I use straight 3% from the drug store shelf.
Started when I read an article on different solutions for stubborn thrift records with mold on them. Wish I still had the article. But, the premise was that for stubborn contaminants you need to break the bond between the contaminant and the vinyl with more than just alcohol and detergents. Since Hydrogen Peroxide is an Oxydizer the rationale was that it wouldn't harm the vinyl, but would start to loosen the particle.
Seems to work good for me. And, no it doesn't bubble and/or fizz.
I only use it for the 1st pass on my VPI RCM, and only for really grungy records. Most records only get a wash and rinse (2 steps). With the HP it's 3 steps. So, I have confidence that the HP is neutralized and removed long before I am done cleaning.
Maybe for next candidate I will only do 1 side with the Hydrogen Peroxide and report back.
Started when I read an article on different solutions for stubborn thrift records with mold on them. Wish I still had the article. But, the premise was that for stubborn contaminants you need to break the bond between the contaminant and the vinyl with more than just alcohol and detergents. Since Hydrogen Peroxide is an Oxydizer the rationale was that it wouldn't harm the vinyl, but would start to loosen the particle.
Seems to work good for me. And, no it doesn't bubble and/or fizz.
I only use it for the 1st pass on my VPI RCM, and only for really grungy records. Most records only get a wash and rinse (2 steps). With the HP it's 3 steps. So, I have confidence that the HP is neutralized and removed long before I am done cleaning.
Maybe for next candidate I will only do 1 side with the Hydrogen Peroxide and report back.
Poultrygeist
Lunatic Member
I clean my acrylic night guard with peroxide as that's what the dentist recommends.
