I find your lack of faith disturbing.

I am starting to find people a little more tolerant of the vinyl resurgence. I can also tell that people are starting to back off when it comes to asking that dreadful question: "Why are you messing with records?" In vice versa, I see people backing off the iPod people. Just leave each other be and enjoy the music because who really cares how one person chooses to listen to his or her music? As long as we don't get into the "x is better than y" arguments and try to pull these ill faded websites arguing the benefits of one side only and how the other side is pure evil. Kinda reminds me about the whole p-word discussion. We all have our preferences. It doesn't mean that one is better than the other because both mediums have their pros and cons. As for me, I'll enjoy the pros of both mediums: The convenience and portability of my iPhone and the lifelike experience of a great album on the turntable. :D
 
If I believe in something, I'm generally out trying to convert my minions. On the other hand, I fixed up my dad's old Pioneer for him, bought him a new cart/stylus, and so on. The new wife didn't like it, or records, or music for that matter, and so it's back at my house. Strike one.
 
I've stopped surprising peoople a LONG time ago. Most people know me as that nerd working in IT.

My wife says I'm endearing. Most just find me odd. :P

I've listened to records for years but didn't buy many until recently. Truth be told, I prefer a good CD over Vinyl but so many CDs sound like crap these days that I find myself preferring the Vinyl.
 
well, just this afternoon I was perusing around Music Merchant in Westwood, NJ, a $100 gift cert b-day gift burning a hole in me pocket . . . there is a good mix of old, new and middle-aged selections on vinyl and CD . . . my fellow shoppers' demographic was no less varied . . . anyway, as I waited my turn to checkout, I conversed with an older than moi gent, neatly dressed in suit and tie, about TT's and cartridges . . . what struck me tho, was his comment "if I start playing records again, they'll really get mad at me!", followed by "as it is, I gotta sneak these in" as he motioned with the 2 CD's in his hand . . . clealry, I think he would enjoy spinning the old vinyl again, but the powers that be in his world would not look favorably upon that . . . whats the point of this thread again? . . . oh yeah, vinyl . . . I went digital during the 80's & 90's and re-purchased my vinyl catalog on CD as well as new purchases, but since losing most of my records during Hurricane Floyd and re-kindling the vinyl flame, I am content to pursue my present course; buy vinyl, both replacement and new . . . conversion of the great unwashed I have neither the time nor desire . . .
 
cactuscowboy said:
And the younger folks, who I refer to as the "Ipod generation", often have no experience hearing any kind of decent stereo system at all, let alone records.
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There was a piece on NPR just the other day about this. Apparently kids don't even buy music anymore, they find and listen to music on YouTube. Must sound great. :no:
 
chicks said:
There was a piece on NPR just the other day about this. Apparently kids don't even buy music anymore, they find and listen to music on YouTube. Must sound great. :no:
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Played over a hi-fi YouTube can sound pretty good. There is a great deal of interesting music there, I was introduced to Howard Hanson's work on YouTube, now I own a couple of the Living Presence LPs.

It's better to listen to music on YouTube than not listen to it on something better. ;)
 
chicks said:
There was a piece on NPR just the other day about this. Apparently kids don't even buy music anymore, they find and listen to music on YouTube. Must sound great. :no:
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In general when at work with young people (ages 20-40) quality of anything doesn't matter to them. They will accept POS's in any product, and won't do anything to produce quality. They are a dead generation IMO.
 
Never did understand why in some people "faith" inevitably leads to a compulsion to convert... nothing wrong with one's personal beliefs staying personal and not being inflicted on those around, I always maintain.

When it's too good not to share, people tend to figure it out on their own anyway... take sex, for example.

John
 
91r100gs said:
In general when at work with young people (ages 20-40) quality of anything doesn't matter to them. They will accept POS's in any product, and won't do anything to produce quality. They are a dead generation IMO.
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sorry but quality has been dead since the early 60s. that means we need to add another 20 years onto your range.

this is from someone with zero nostalgia as I wasnt even around until the 90s frankly. but yeah, the last time you could buy something middle of the road and it was legitimately high quality was early 60s. TOTL stuff has always been good, no shock there, although the 80s were kind of rough.

part of it is a disposable culture in the States created by our parent's generations. kids in Europe / Japan / South Korea do not have this perspective to nearly the same degree.
 
I discuss my hobby with friends and folks I meet, but not to convert. Often they say "Really? I think I have some LP's in the closet. Would you like them?"

I've been able to fill out my collection, obtaining records I wished I'd bought when they were released by talking about my hobby. Personally, I'm glad to help those interested, but I'm far from an evangelist.
 
91r100gs said:
In general when at work with young people (ages 20-40) quality of anything doesn't matter to them. They will accept POS's in any product, and won't do anything to produce quality. They are a dead generation IMO.
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That's simply not true. I'm 20 and I appreciate quality immensely in all things. Clothes, music, sound quality, well made stereo equipment, you name it. I'm just one of the lucky ones because I know a quality product when I see/hear/feel one, but the problem is people my age can appreciate quality but they don't know how to find it! Someone wants a quality audio product and all they can find is Beats, Bose, Crosley, and other junk products. So they buy something they THINK is quality due to aggressive marketing and no one will tell them it's junk...but I will let them hear for themselves what theyre missing. My friends and I just sit and listen to tunes all the time

What I think part of what it is, is that my generation and a little before never grew up with nice stereos at home and have never even heard one. Younger generations might grow up with a HT but unlikely one just for music.

Anyway. Defending my generation :music:
 
People are surprised that a kid my age collects records. Their expression of surprise is usually followed by, "Do you have something to play them on?"

Of course not! I use them as frisbees and clay pigeons! That's what people do with records after they buy them, right?
 
45rpm said:
People are surprised that a kid my age collects records. Their expression of surprise is usually followed by, "Do you have something to play them on?"

Of course not! I use them as frisbees and clay pigeons! That's what people do with records after they buy them, right?
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Well that and make wall hangings, bowls and purses out of them :tears:
 

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Well that and make wall hangings, bowls and purses out of them :tears:
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Sliced beets, how appropriate.

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Well, my faith was restored after upgrading to a Denon DL-301 MKII & DIY SUT. TT is Sony PS-X50. That series is starting to get some respect too even with its rather ordinary looks. :D
 
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