I'm joining the tube world. St70 is on way.

jcm2012

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So for the past three months or so I have been saving up my pennies with the plan to jump into tubes with a st35 kit from triode electronics. Figuring that an st35 kit would cost me about 500 buck plus the price of tubes plus shipping, I would end up somewhere over 600 when all said and done.
I was browsing the old auction site just for fun on sunday night and came across this st70. The buy it now price on this plus shipping ended up being about 505 total. It was a no brainer. Even if there are anysurprises and it needs any tinkering, thats fine with me. :) It does look like that one cap got a little close to an iron, easily replaced if needed.
I'm super stoked ! I'll likely run it briefly, then very soon get that cap board moved underneath the chassis.


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Below is the description from the seller:

1. You will notice there is no 5AR4 to be seen. This is because this amplifier has been modified to use Solid State rectification. However, unlike 99% of solid state rectified ST70s you'll find this one has a power transformer that was designed by Van Alstine and Sound Valves to deliver the correct voltage to compensate for the lack of voltage drop acrros the 5AR4. This means the correct B+ voltage is delivered but has much better current capability as the transformer has a much higher current capability than the stock unit. Most of you know the stock transformer in a ST-70 is its biggest limiting factor.


2. The Can Cap was replaced by a circuit board containing Panasonic TSU caps as per instructions again from Frank Van Alstine. I had plans of moving this board under the chassis and to be clear... THERE IS HIGH VOLTAGE ON THIS BOARD SO THIS AMP NEEDS TO BE RUN WITH THE COVER ON UNTIL THIS IS DONE. I would not recommend using this amp until this is done.

3. Under the chassis a 100uf Cerafine cap was also installed into the power supply. All and all I think you can agree that this dynaco has a very stiff power supply and is a huge improvement over a stock unit.

4. The stock 7199 driver board has been rebuild and is equiped with Dumont branded 7199s. These 7199s have less than 40 hours on them after I purchased them as NOS for this amplifier after recieving it.

5. Also included with this amp is a Triode/SDS EF86 / 12AU7 Driver board that has been stuffed and is ready to mount if you desire to do so. .

6. The SDS Winged C EL34s all still test very well. They all tested 75% on my tube tester where %55 is considered minimum.

7. It comes with a nice more modern black cage.

8. The output transformers are original dynaco with cloth leads.

9. It has had better speaker connectors installed and wired for 8ohms. (Can be changed to 4 or 16 ohms if that is what you need).

10. The chassis is an original chassis and just needs a little bit of polishing.

11. The bottom of the chassis is a newer replacement.
 
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you did good $ wise. Already has upgrades so another plus. put that cap board under the chassis where it belongs and you're good to go.
 
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Moving the board will be a priority for sure.
Also excited about it coming with a bonus and ready to go triode driver board.
That will eventually go in at some point when the bug to do more tinkering bites.
also, realized I was incorrect about the price of 505. It was actually 503.01 after shipping. :)
 
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Nice pickup~Keep us posted on how it sounds!


you did good $ wise. Already has upgrades so another plus. put that cap board under the chassis where it belongs and you're good to go.

Is there a reason you wouldn't want to revert back to an OEM style can-cap? I know they're a bit pricey, but, I mean, is there an advantage (beyond price) to have the cap array on the circuit board? Is it a sound quality thing?
 
I think it adds a touch of creativity on the part of the orig owner. Its only deadly if YOU touch it. Otherwisetotally safe.:D
 
the anticipation for it to arrive is off the charts !

For now will pair with my Onkyo A5 and I think I may pick up a speaker selector switch so I can switch between these KLH Model 10's and a pair of Jensen 700xlw 4 ways with that nice horn in there. Both have have been recapped.

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It came last week.
Fired it up using my Onkyo A-5 as preamp and it sounds great ! Been running with cage on, except for to tweak the bias, which is holding steady.

To me it sounds very nice being my first venture in to tube hi-fi.

So looking at the DIY Quad cap board, i see that part of the reason it is likely not underneath the chassis is with the large 100uf 600v cap taking up all that space.

the diy quad board consists of 4 - 68uf 450v caps and a couple resistors wired in there as well and and orange cap marked sbe715p 104k 606v.

I imagine I have a number or routes I could take to make this thing safer.
First I though I could rebuild the existing quad on a new piece of perfboard in a manner that I could squeeze it below somewhere.
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I could start just start replacing things.
This also came with a free sds driver board and the guy was threw in a free ef86 and 12au7 with it that he found when packing it up to ship.

I don't want to get into a huge project, I'm leaning towards getting a a new can cap, skipping the triode board and getting a VTA upgrade board.

thoughts ?

The frugal side of me says to try and work with what I have and save some bucks for a bit, the tinkerer says to tinker !


I have to say, "Dark Star" off of Live Dead sounds friggin awesome right now :banana:

oh yeah, I also took the feet off of an old 5 disc changer and put them on so it doesn't have to go barefoot. Looks sharp !
 

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I... So looking at the DIY Quad cap board, i see that part of the reason it is likely not underneath the chassis is with the large 100uf 600v cap taking up all that space.

the diy quad board consists of 4 - 68uf 450v caps and a couple resistors wired in there as well and and orange cap marked sbe715p 104k 606v.

I imagine I have a number or routes I could take to make this thing safer.
First I though I could rebuild the existing quad on a new piece of perfboard in a manner that I could squeeze it below somewhere.
-or-
I could start just start replacing things.
This also came with a free sds driver board and the guy was threw in a free ef86 and 12au7 with it that he found when packing it up to ship.

I don't want to get into a huge project, I'm leaning towards getting a a new can cap, skipping the triode board and getting a VTA upgrade board.

thoughts ?

The frugal side of me says to try and work with what I have and save some bucks for a bit, the tinkerer says to tinker !...
I'd try to put that board below deck or replace it with a couple of large can caps as someone else suggested. Otherwise, if you're not yet sure what you plan to do long term, then as a quick fix, could you not drop that board horizontal, remote that big orange cap underneath and mount the board next to the driver board (just above - towards the transformers)? You could add a piece of perf board under it plus use short stand-offs to make it safer and help prevent shorting to the chassis.

You could then think about what you want to do for a better long term, safer and more aesthetically pleasing fix.
 
You know, what I could do is seeing that I already have the Triode Electronics driver board I could just pickup their capacitor upgrade board and replace all that homebrew stuff in a nice tidy manner, and make it one big upgrade project.
Then I'll either cover the hole with a square of perf board from below or track down an old can and just put it there for looks.
 
Congrate into tube audio world to Jcm,to see The ST 70 Series I and ST 70 Series II are always interested,never ending threads.Try to find The Dynaco ST70 Series II that originally has a power trans like Yours and has a pair of LED indicator bias voltage.Cheers.
 
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Congrats, on your new tube amp, welcome to the tube club once you start you
can't stop, and yep I would take that row of caps and put it on the bottom
underneath once you get that done you can work on other stuff. Enjoy

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just ordered a upgrade cap board from triode electronics. will put that in along with the bonus triode driver board that came with it, then we'll be able to run cage free, yay !
 
Congrats I just got into the Dynaco St 70s a few months back. I have not owned another tube amp but I like the two I have great amps. Enjoy.
 
Got the triode electronic upgrade power supply board installed today. Got rid of the DIY cap setup. Sounds great. Next week I'll put in the triode driver board. No more worrys about getting zapped while setting bias.
 
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