iPods, out-board DACs, trust issues, ETC

The music files are hidden. They are there in a hidden folder. I went and tweaked the Mac OSX settings to read hidden files. There are lots on the iPod that can only be accessed directly by the iPod / iTunes normally.

or if you're in windows just go to folder options and tell it to display hidden folders and bingo inta-files (it's all starting to come back).
 
Yes, it does.

The only hitch I see is that in certain condtions AAC could have copyright protection (purchased downloads from Apple?) and the manual says these will not play this way (by USB).
 
Yes, it does.

The only hitch I see is that in certain condtions AAC could have copyright protection (purchased downloads from Apple?) and the manual says these will not play this way (by USB).

True and those file would probably need the "authorized" dock to be playback. Though if all you're music is ripped from you're own CD collection than you've got no problems.
 
Yes, it does.

The only hitch I see is that in certain condtions AAC could have copyright protection (purchased downloads from Apple?) and the manual says these will not play this way (by USB).

True and those file would probably need the "authorized" dock to be playback. Though if all you're music is ripped from you're own CD collection than you've got no problems.

Yeah, the protected AAC files (.m4p) have DRM and they come from the cheaper downloads from iTunes. PITA IMHO:thumbsdn:
 
That's why I stick with just ripping my own CD's and stay away from apple or Zune for that matter.

Ahh, there is nothing wrong with Apple or iTunes. It's just a computer and a program.

Personally, I use MAX 0.91 for ripping instead of iTunes. MAX can let the bitrate loose and go as high as 390 kb/sec for AAC files, and they are still iPod compatible. Sound (to my ears) 99.8% as good as the CD when done with MAX.

iTunes does a good quick job, but the error correction is rudimentary at best. MAX can do SHA-256 sector comparison, check for C2 errors, plus it can do multiple passes of sector and only rip the matching sector passes. In short, after all that error correction, I'm getting the cleanest rips possible.

iTunes is a great player, and I use it alot. Ripping.....well, it's basic.
 
Ahh, there is nothing wrong with Apple or iTunes. It's just a computer and a program.

Personally, I use MAX 0.91 for ripping instead of iTunes. MAX can let the bitrate loose and go as high as 390 kb/sec for AAC files, and they are still iPod compatible. Sound (to my ears) 99.8% as good as the CD when done with MAX.

iTunes does a good quick job, but the error correction is rudimentary at best. MAX can do SHA-256 sector comparison, check for C2 errors, plus it can do multiple passes of sector and only rip the matching sector passes. In short, after all that error correction, I'm getting the cleanest rips possible.

iTunes is a great player, and I use it alot. Ripping.....well, it's basic.

I use MediaMonkey and load my music onto my Sansa Fuze+, previously an iRiver H10 (man I need to get it up and running again). It supports MP3/WAV/Flac/Ogg/AAC/ALAC and a whole array of other codec's I don't feel like mentioning at the moment. Personally I feel that iTunes is a bit resticitve in what you can and can't do with you're music (I find Apple in general to be a little over bearing and naggy but that's neither here nor there) but obviously it's a personal choice so use what suites you and your needs best.
 
Convenience I guess?? It doesn't make sense to me either as I had the same questions at the Wadia presentation.

If your computer isn't near your main rig, access is an issue so the Wadia allows you to plop your iPod, (or a friend's) into a cradle and away you go. But I play my stuff via a netbook that accesses my main library wirelessly, and then output it to a DAC and into the big rig, so I see no need for the Wadia or any similar device.

I'm tapping into the mother lode, not some portable back pack :D
I have music available wirelessly around the house, too.

However, I like the flexibility of the Pure because I can do the following with it:

1. Use it to stream music via wifi at home
2. Use it to stream via 3G when I am out of wifi range
3. Use it with my 160gb iPod when I am out of wifi and 3G range.
4. Use it to stream video and output to a tv when I am on vacation using the methods above
5. While a netbook can do some of the above, it is not as portable and it would still need some sort of DAC to get better sound.

The Pure has it's own DAC, digital outs, video out, analog out, etc...all wrapped in a small package. Also it works as a charging dock for iDevices. For all of these features it is a bargain. Of course, you need a compatible iDevice to get much out of it, but if you have the hardware, it very easy to justify the cost.
 
5. While a netbook can do some of the above, it is not as portable and it would still need some sort of DAC to get better sound

You misread my post; all the netbook does is run my music software. It's output feed my V-DAC. I'm more than the 5m away from my rig and don't want my computer sound colliding with my music, so I run the music off a separate computer wirelessly.

Sure I have to go to it to change selections, but I have to do that with any other media so that's a non issue. Using shuffle, I can play weeks of music with the only repeats being duplicate copies. My iPod Touch is only 16GB; my desktop HD is 1TB with 160GB of music on it. Guess who wins??? :D
 
Wow, I blinked and missed a whole lot of great discussion. Thanks for all your input everyone, I too realized in a head-slap moment that this was all happening over USB so it had to be staying in the digital domain. I'll be curious to see if playback via the head unit controls is limited to un-copyprotected material. It seems that is the biggest sticking point is who gets the "handshake" to play DRM material.

Oh and in reference to Satkins earlier comment, although I am a long time 'cuse fan, my screen name was inspired by "a clockwork orange" and not by the 'cuse, but I like that take on it too :)
 
You misread my post; all the netbook does is run my music software. It's output feed my V-DAC. I'm more than the 5m away from my rig and don't want my computer sound colliding with my music, so I run the music off a separate computer wirelessly.

Sure I have to go to it to change selections, but I have to do that with any other media so that's a non issue. Using shuffle, I can play weeks of music with the only repeats being duplicate copies. My iPod Touch is only 16GB; my desktop HD is 1TB with 160GB of music on it. Guess who wins??? :D

You could also do this with a Touch. It will stream from your main computer and play back as long as you are in wifi range. There are apps like Plex, Orb, etc.. and if you have a newer Touch it can stream using Home Share.

If you are having to go to it to change selections, you could just use your Touch to control the library that is playing instead. If you use iTunes, their Remote app will do this. The Touch also works with Foobar (although I have never tried it) and other media servers.
 
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