Is Audiophilia Primarily a Boomer Affliction?

When I go to HiFi shows it is mostly old duffers like me.

But on the other hand in a number of HiFi shops there are plenty of young, enthusiastic staff around.
 
Being a boomer I grew up in the first
“Golden Age of Audio”. Everyone had a system and we all waited for the latest album from our favorite groups to drop. Now that I can afford a nice system I guess I’m an audiophile.

My son grew up in the heart of the second “Golden Age of Audio” where the world’s music was available to you in high fidelity formats for a low monthly subscription fee. You know, the good old days. Like right now. Today. He lives in an apartment with 4 other people so listens with headphones. Is he an audiophile? Not in the traditional big amp big speaker big chair big butt kind of way. But yes, he enjoys the reproduction of recorded music and strives to improve his experience as time and money allow.
 
Being a boomer I grew up in the first
“Golden Age of Audio”. Everyone had a system and we all waited for the latest album from our favorite groups to drop. Now that I can afford a nice system I guess I’m an audiophile.

My son grew up in the heart of the second “Golden Age of Audio” where the world’s music was available to you in high fidelity formats for a low monthly subscription fee. You know, the good old days. Like right now. Today. He lives in an apartment with 4 other people so listens with headphones. Is he an audiophile? Not in the traditional big amp big speaker big chair big butt kind of way. But yes, he enjoys the reproduction of recorded music and strives to improve his experience as time and money allow.
So you passed down your love of music and audio to him although different much the same ,great way to keep the audio karma going !
 
I inherited my love of music from my late uncle (born in 1915) who was already a well established audiophile by the time stereo LP's were available in the 50's.
I remember listening to his stereo jazz & classical LPs in 1959 through his Klipshorn speakers. What memories. What sound!!
 
Another aspect: back then you were limited to physical media, so you would buy an LP and you would want to device to make justice to your purchase. Now you have hundreds of millions songs available for $10/mo, so finally people care more about music itself, not about how to [re]present it.

If anything, the golden age of music and movies was not in 1970s, it is now. Well, the golden age of movies has been closing for several years now, with splintering of the content into multiple platforms belonging to right holders. Music so far can be accessed from a single provider like Spotify, but I am afraid it may splinter too.
 
I don't know if that's necessarily true if the vinyl resurgence among the young today is any indication. :idea:
You may be right, although as far as I can tell, much of that resurgence is not particularly high-fidelity. In any case, I wonder how much physical media stats really mean these days. It seems most of the listening is streaming among young folks. Hell, most of MY listening is streaming these days.
 
I don't know if that's necessarily true if the vinyl resurgence among the young today is any indication. :idea:

You may be right, although as far as I can tell, much of that resurgence is not particularly high-fidelity. In any case, I wonder how much physical media stats really mean these days. It seems most of the listening is streaming among young folks. Hell, most of MY listening is streaming these days.

Exactly. Vinil resurgence and audiophilia are orthogonal.

yeah, as an aside, there’s a young hipster kid in his mid 20’s who tends bar at a microbrewery around the corner from me- really nice guy and I’ve had a lot of conversations with him about music, guitars, bands and records- I run into him frequently when digging the crates at record stores in my neighborhood and we share a lot of musical affinities. A few months ago, I’d mentioned that I’d just completed a pair of Klipsch Super Heresy clones and put together a really “sweet low-budget hi-fi system around them.” His response was almost dripping with disdain, which so caught me by surprise that I didn’t press him on what seemed to be a negative reaction to my comment. I’m not sure if it was my anachronistic use of the term “hi-fi,” which I’ve used ironically since the late 80’s, or if his reaction wat either generational or class-based- I live in a gentrified, formerly working class neighborhood in Philadelphia where $800k townhouses are replacing the 125 year old brick row homes and old warehouses and factories are being converted into pricey lofts. Im guessing that it was all of the above, that he views component systems as not only an unhip remnant of a bygone age, but also laden with bourgeois pretentiousness, as if I was one of the yuppies who’ve made living in the neighborhood unsustainable for young creatives like him. Meanwhile, I was just stoked about something that I’d made and put together on the cheap, but he’d shown less than no interest in it, as if it was a wholly foreign concept. Granted, a sample of one is far from representative of a generation, but apart from an interest in vinyl, I’m not convinced that youths have any interest in reproduction beyond blowing their eardrums on over the ear headphones and AirPods.
 
I’m not convinced that youths have any interest in reproduction beyond blowing their eardrums on over the ear headphones and AirPods.
Personal, portable, individualized music started forty years ago with the Walkman and still goes strong. During the 1980s mini-systems became popular in addition to ghetto-blasters and walkmans. If you could not take your music with you, you did not want it. I can see how creating a, um, "listening environment" to "critically listen" to music in a "privacy of one's own home" can seem pretentious, especially if it is something like the Beatles instead of a symphonic orchestra.

Thanks to modern tech like smartphone I can have the same - either good enough or stellar, my choice - quality on the go and at home. No need for a "sweet hi-fi system". Smartphone is a singular source, and active speakers is the reproduction system. Separates are dead, at least as the mass market is concerned. Digital stream listened through a pair of sub-$100 active speakers provides better quality than most 1970s hi-fi.
 
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To @Gigantic’s point about equipment:

Unfortunately, I don’t know anyone from any generation who has the slightest interest in my hardware.

But I’m supposed to be interested in their life’s stuff. (basic human nature)

It has become a solitary hobby.
Wasn’t always this way.

Very thankful for like-minded “geeks” on AK.
 
yeah, as an aside, there’s a young hipster kid in his mid 20’s who tends bar at a microbrewery around the corner from me- really nice guy and I’ve had a lot of conversations with him about music, guitars, bands and records- I run into him frequently when digging the crates at record stores in my neighborhood and we share a lot of musical affinities. A few months ago, I’d mentioned that I’d just completed a pair of Klipsch Super Heresy clones and put together a really “sweet low-budget hi-fi system around them.” His response was almost dripping with disdain, which so caught me by surprise that I didn’t press him on what seemed to be a negative reaction to my comment. I’m not sure if it was my anachronistic use of the term “hi-fi,” which I’ve used ironically since the late 80’s, or if his reaction wat either generational or class-based- I live in a gentrified, formerly working class neighborhood in Philadelphia where $800k townhouses are replacing the 125 year old brick row homes and old warehouses and factories are being converted into pricey lofts. Im guessing that it was all of the above, that he views component systems as not only an unhip remnant of a bygone age, but also laden with bourgeois pretentiousness, as if I was one of the yuppies who’ve made living in the neighborhood unsustainable for young creatives like him. Meanwhile, I was just stoked about something that I’d made and put together on the cheap, but he’d shown less than no interest in it, as if it was a wholly foreign concept. Granted, a sample of one is far from representative of a generation, but apart from an interest in vinyl, I’m not convinced that youths have any interest in reproduction beyond blowing their eardrums on over the ear headphones and AirPods.

Perhaps ask the individual what playback equipment he thinks typically resides in the homes of the musicians he reveres. Suppose one day he was invited to the home of (insert favorite band/member here) and that person demonstrated his/her high end hi fi system, I suspect his attitude toward the hobby would do a 180.
 
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I'll just say "I don't know" I did have a youngster of about 30 buy a Luxman/Luxkit A3500 from me a couple of weeks ago and didn't even blink at the price. He also wanted my TW 1A speakers and a year before bought a pair ML LX16 speakers. If they enjoy music I think they'll find their way to better sound. Gauging from the amount of new kit being sold it looks like there may be a resurgence and it's not just boomers.

Back in my mid 20's a 90 year old across the street had Mac equipment.
 
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Generally speaking, I'd say the answer to your question is "yes".
Gentlemen of a certain age were born into a world where there wasn't a lot of consumer technology available to the public. There were cameras, watches, TVs and audio equipment. Since maybe the 1930s there were people interested in hi-fi, but it was largely a DIY hobby where guys would build amplifiers and speakers. Lots of speaker manufacturers (Wharfedale, Tannoy, KEF) would publish specs for recommended enclosures and sell drive units for those designs to the DIY community.
Then electronics manufacturing matured to the point where it was possible to mass produce stuff at affordable prices and Japanese audio equipment became more widely available and sales of hi-fi gear as a consumer product really took off. I'd say the 1970s were when the market got really big, and the kids of the time were (and still are) heavily influenced by that.
Subsequent generations have had computer games, phones and god-knows-what other technology and gadgets to entice them and "proper" hi-fi isn't something that interests most people like it used to. Maybe things have just gone back to how they used to be. I'm sure the vast majority of Beetles records ever sold were listened-to on crappy gear (Dansettes etc.) and these days pop music is listened-to by many people on a crappy phone speaker. The hi-fi boom of the 1970s was just a blip in the history of music recording/reproduction/broadcasting.

Yeah I think that nails it. Hifi may not be a dominate fixture in home entertainment anymore, but there are a lot of gateways into it. Enthusiasts of movies and television could find themselves pursuing better sound quality. Same with PC gamers. Sound is so integral to both of those hobbies. If someone finds themselves caring about their sound quality, boom, got one.

Here you go....a music lover is someone who spends more time and $ on music than equipment....an audiophile is someone who spends more time and $ on equipment than music.....

Strange. I still feel like I’d fall under the audiophile umbrella. My system has been “done” for quite some time now, and I’ve just been spending money on physical media and a Spotify account.
 
Digital stream listened through a pair of sub-$100 active speakers provides better quality than most 1970s hi-fi.

Really? You sound really sure of yourself with this statement. I disagree completely. Don't try to tell me that a cheapo class D amp board screwed to a 4" 2 way box is going to sound better than my Onkyo TX-4500 and ADS L710's. If you truly believe that then your opinions are suspect as far as I'm concerned. I'm not sure you really believe it though, I think you just love to get a reaction.
 
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