JBL 4313B's

There are several 035Ti for sale on eBay right now. The average price seems to be about $50 for a single.

Nice to hear of someone using and enjoying their L60Ts. I've owned a pair since new in 1987. They haven't seen use in years (I have a pair of L100T in my den that I use every day), but I have no plans to sell them.

The L60T started my love of JBLs. I grew so fond of the series that I eventually bought all of the family members (L20T, L80T, and L100T).:D
 
nissan guy said:
Good point. Now while we are on the jbl subject, i need to find myself a working 035ti tweeter for my l60t's. Anyone have one laying around?
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The 035Ti isn't easily rebuilt with a new diaphragm (the new available diaphragm faceplate will have to be modified a bit, and the dome manually aligned- the alignment "pins" are incompatible, and have to be removed from the new diaphragm)... but, if they happen to be 035TiA... an 052Ti diaphragm/faceplate assembly can be used as drop-in replacement for the 035TiA diaphragm/faceplate. I would replace both of them, though... they are very subtly different. Not enough to notice when a pair is replaced- but one 035Tia and one 052Ti might sound at least a little noticeably different from each other.

052Ti diaphragms are available for around $60 each or so. No, not dirt cheap- but less expensive than a whole tweeter, usually... and easier to find. You might be able to sell your working 035Ti/TiA diaphragm to partially offset the cost...

Regards,
Gordon.
 
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...but the ADS are almost certainly more accurate to the recording as they use the same drivers as ADS speakers that were used in recording studio in the 80s and even on up to today.
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What impresses me about the L810s is that in the Stereo Review test of the time, (paraphrasing here) they commented that it was one of the few loudspeakers that they had tested that was indistinguishable in an A - B comparison between source material and L810 playback.
 
Well, I'd just like to thank this forum for being here, as I've just bought a pair of 4313B's for just a tad under $400.
Granted, they do need new surrounds on the 10", and a couple of mounting screw holes tended to, but overall, very good condition.
.... and you guys (as aged as this thread is), helped make the decision to get them.

I know I won't be disappointed, and for that I'm truly grateful.

Cheers to all.....
 
If they are anything like my 4411's you will be very happy. If you don't like them, put an ad up in Bartertown (if you're a subscriber). Someone will take them off your hands... My 4411's sound great on solid state (McIntosh 4100 & Pioneer SX-980) and my tube gear. They're doing tube duty.
 
Once here, they won't be going anywhere. They will be added to my JBL collection.
.... and God knows how many have tried to get me to part with any of them.
They'll have to pried from my dead fingers before I let go. LoL.....
 
I really like my pair, very smooth sounding speaker. Not quite what I expecting from JBL.

I haven't been inside mine yet, but from what pics I've seen of the internals, they look very robust.

Enjoy!:thmbsp:
 
From what I've gathered so far, it was about the time that JBL started using by-pass caps in their x-overs, which apparently gave them a much smoother top end.

CORRECTION: It seems that it wasn't 'till the 90's that JBL started adding b/p caps. My apologies.
Something I'm looking into right now.

I won't get mine for another week yet, but the excitement of it all is building exponentially. ;)
 
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What the heck, Brewster? I read to the end of this thread to see what you thought and you never got back to it? Did you NOT audition the 4313s? Did they become "unavailable" for $400 or what? Inquiring minds want to know. I am considering picking some up, myself, and was really interested in your comparison of speakers.
 
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By the time I got to the last page, I thought I'd see pics of these beauties.
That's a great price for those.
 
aj_chicago said:
What the heck, Brewster? I read to the end of this thread to see what you thought and you never got back to it? Did you NOT audition the 4313s? Did they become "unavailable" for $400 or what? Inquiring minds want to know. I am considering picking some up, myself, and was really interested in your comparison of speakers.
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You're kidding right?

Edit: I'm going to assume so :smoke:

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JBL 4313B's are my babies. Absolutely love them! It will reproduce what's coming at them good or bad. They are the truest speakers I have ever owned. At $400 they are a steal as long as the tweeters aren't smashed in. Even at $400 if the woofers needed new surrounds they would be a deal.
 
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Not sure I get the meaning or the humor, nor if anyone else would. As in "dead thread"? I was thinking that, if subscribed, Brewster may respond and the thread be "resurrected". No?
 
I never understood why so many people seem to get bothered when an old thread is resurrected as if it's breaking some unspoken rule.
 
There actually is no problem with bringing back "the Singing Dead" thread, I do it all the Time. Many posters may have left AK though, but new posters will chime in.

It's the AudioKarma wheel of life and undead.
 
It should be obvious that vintage gear advice is nearly timeless...JBL hasn't built a new 4313 in many years and "new" insights and advice is likely to be hard to find....so a 5 or 10 year old thread is as current as one started yesterday or 10 years from now.

What happened to the days when 1999 was the future :dunno:
 
If you are reading this thread after finding a pair for sale..... Go get them! Stop reading-- just go! Now! Faster! Hurry up!

Okay; now... I know that this thread is a tragic slow motion speaker acquisition fail that is painful to read. I've read it many times now as a lucky 4313b owner. The beauty in this thread is in the long term comedy gold that struggle and tragedy often produce over time.

It's kind of like the times in life when we do something really really stupid and injure ourselves or get ourselves fired or embarrassed. It's never funny at the time. It's usually hilarious later on. Tragedy turned comedy needs some time to ferment and mature.

At 19 I had a job delivering laundry. One dropoff was at a house with a sloped driveway. I thought I had placed the van fully in park... I was in a little bit of a rush. I felt it lurch backwards as I got out so I jumped back in quickly to hit the brakes. I hit the gas instead....

Centre support of that poor man's garage had met its match on that afternoon. Of course I was fired- rightfully so. But now many years later I laugh every time I think of it.

I admit that reading this thread is a guilty pleasure of mine. Every time I try to google these speakers it pops up and I can't resist reading it again.

Wherever you are and whomever you are Brewster I applaud your unintentional dark humor. It's a roller coaster ride of hope and tragedy that is endlessly disappointing. Thank you for creating this morbid masterpiece of a thread. My hat is off to you! (Golf clap)
Like woofer above.... someone will be prying these from my cold dead hands when I leave this world.
 
GordonW said:
The 035Ti isn't easily rebuilt with a new diaphragm (the new available diaphragm faceplate will have to be modified a bit, and the dome manually aligned- the alignment "pins" are incompatible, and have to be removed from the new diaphragm)... but, if they happen to be 035TiA... an 052Ti diaphragm/faceplate assembly can be used as drop-in replacement for the 035TiA diaphragm/faceplate. I would replace both of them, though... they are very subtly different. Not enough to notice when a pair is replaced- but one 035Tia and one 052Ti might sound at least a little noticeably different from each other.

052Ti diaphragms are available for around $60 each or so. No, not dirt cheap- but less expensive than a whole tweeter, usually... and easier to find. You might be able to sell your working 035Ti/TiA diaphragm to partially offset the cost...

Regards,
Gordon.
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Hey Gordon, can you give us any insight into finding suitable material and dimensions for the foam damping plug that sits on the pole piece under and damps the Ti dome? Seems more and more people on LH and here feel the loss of the damper to age and degradation is responsible for the HF tizz and hash that has characterized the 035 after many years of use. IIRC, the dome is a cylinder of polyurethane foam, likely very soft, and is compressed under the dome so that resonances are curbed.
 
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