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lafayette lr-1500ta, 15 of 50, batch 1

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2night i restored my lafayette lr 1500ta receiver i picked up at a thrift store in the hood up in baltimore many years ago. intresting challange!! the knobs were all screwed in with 2 bolts each!! and the dial glass was a real bitch to take out. i wouldnt reccomend that for anyone!! anyway after the dust and dirt was out of it it shined up like a new penny!! and powerful too!!!:thmbsp::music:
 

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Nice receiver! I got the same receiver, but I notice yours has a wood case. Mine is all metal. I think it's rated at 60 watts per channel.
 
Nice unit.....built like a tank, heavy...and hey, watch out for those sharp corners! :)

How's yours on power up, does it "thump" the speakers when you first turn it on?
 
Found one of these (the unsuffixed version, which is a little different) at the dump last year in good working order with OM. Nothing to write home about, but a decent and substantial piece of early/mid-70s hardware. "Probably" Kenwood OEM (semi-educated guess).

Speaking of sharp corners, I picked up a nasty splinter from the optional wood cabinet it was in! :-(
 
Nice unit.....built like a tank, heavy...and hey, watch out for those sharp corners! :)

How's yours on power up, does it "thump" the speakers when you first turn it on?
I have a LR-1000B -looks very similar,and yes it thumps when powered up-very nice warm sounding unit,plenty of power. I had it re-capped a couple of years ago-just to make sure it keeps going... It was found by the curb in 1994-the only downside is the FM section is'nt too good. Are all the old Laffys like that? It has a QC sticker on the bottom -dated Sept 1970.
 
It was built by "Planet Research" which was 49% owned by Lafayette. Earlier Rx's were built by "Trio" which became "Kenwood". Since I was a manger for the Manchester Ct company store I took a LR-1500ta to a mac clinic at the "Stereo Shop" in Hartford and the max power was 35 watts rms per channel at .5% harmonic distortion-we sold thousands (company wide) because of many great reviews.
 
It was built by "Planet Research" which was 49% owned by Lafayette. Earlier Rx's were built by "Trio" which became "Kenwood". Since I was a manger for the Manchester Ct company store I took a LR-1500ta to a mac clinic at the "Stereo Shop" in Hartford and the max power was 35 watts rms per channel at .5% harmonic distortion-we sold thousands (company wide) because of many great reviews.

Which models were built by Trio? The LR-9090 was a clone of Setton RS-660 and both came from the same Alpine factory.
 
I scored one of those in really good shape at a goodwill for 15 bucks. I took a chance because I really did not like the Pioneer stuff I was listening to at the time. I looked it up on my droid and it seemed promising, so I bought it. I brought it home, hooked it up to some sansui sp-150's and some KLH model 17's and man does it sound good. Not as good as my Sansui that broke but way better than my Pioneer SX-780. I am a fan! I am going to try to sell the pioneer stuff now and just look for another Sansui or a marantz.
 
Late to the party, but hey..the lr1500 ta is a great, beautiful unit that has great features-
It lights up with indicators that are the true description of vintage late 60's gear done right.Great power-my tech thought it sounded better than my sansui 1000a tuber-(a stretch, I know) since they are relatively still available out there, they are a smart and fun unit for a collector-they all 'pop' at start-up-and for you restorers, watch out for the inside dial glass-on an old dry unit-those scale numbers will come off if you even breathe on them hard-I have 3 of them and it happened on one of em'.MUSIC IS THE BEST.SuperDaveinNYC.


Sansui 1000a,8080db,400,800,4000 and a 5000x (the finest product sansui ever made)
Magnavox 1500 Plus-Lafayette La-85ta/LT 22 tuner Kenny KR-70,6200
Sony 7065A-HK 520-Olson RA-195-Pio SX-6000-Revox G36-Dynaco A35's-Pioneer cs88a's
 
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FWIW: herewith, the non-A version -- no "Acri-tune" and variable FM muting; otherwise pretty similar.

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It was built by "Planet Research" which was 49% owned by Lafayette. Earlier Rx's were built by "Trio" which became "Kenwood". Since I was a manger for the Manchester Ct company store I took a LR-1500ta to a mac clinic at the "Stereo Shop" in Hartford and the max power was 35 watts rms per channel at .5% harmonic distortion-we sold thousands (company wide) because of many great reviews.

I worked for Lafayette's Syosset main office in the QC department from Jan 1968 to Nov 1969. During that time, the LR-1500T was current, along with similar-looking, lower-priced models, LR-1000T and LR-500T. There was also the LR-1200T that was being phased out from the previous year. The entire line of stereo receivers sold well because they had excellent reviews and were great performers in their price range.

However, the advertised power output figures were somewhat exaggerated during that time period before the FTC stepped in to make a level playing field in the power output measurement arena. The LR-1500T was advertised as 150 watts IHF at 4 ohms (in 1968), 175 watts IHF at 4 ohms (in 1969) and 120 watts IHF at 8 ohms in both years. In the 1971 catalog, the LR-1500TA was advertised at 240 watts +- 1 dB and 190 watts IHF without specifying load impedance.

Although I haven't found it yet (because I'm a new member), I'm sure the subject of inflated power measurements in the late 1960s into the early 1970s has been covered elsewhere in AK.

All manufacturers later on had to advertise power output in RMS power at a stated harmonic distortion. The 35 watts per channel RMS for the LR-1500TA would be a more realistic measurement. See how inflated the advertised power figures were in those days? It would not be uncommon to see power consumption by the product to be under the power output stated by the advertisements, an achievement that breaks the laws of physics! The power delivered to the speakers ultimately comes from the wall outlet!

Although Lafayette did have some early and mid-sixties communications receivers produced by Trio, the line of stereo receivers that I mentioned above were produced by Fujitsu. During the time period that I worked at LRE, Fujitsu phased out contract manufacturing for Lafayette. Planet Research continued to produce the identical product line seamlessly. I had never heard anything about Lafayette "owning" any part of Planet Research. Planet Research was one of many manufacturers Lafayette contracted to produce product for them.

Some of Lafayette's very early line of vacuum tube high fidelity and stereo products were produced domestically by United Scientific Laboratories who marketed their own products under the DeWald brand.
 
Yes. Extensively. The FTC regulations on power claims for home stereo amplifiers and receivers came into effect in 1974. Didn't then, and don't now, apply to car stereo, commercial equipment, or multi-channel equipment for home use. Reading even modern ads... one can sort of tell.
 
Yes. Extensively. The FTC regulations on power claims for home stereo amplifiers and receivers came into effect in 1974. Didn't then, and don't now, apply to car stereo, commercial equipment, or multi-channel equipment for home use. Reading even modern ads... one can sort of tell.

Thank you mhardy6647. I did a web search and found this reference that might be of interest to explain it in further detail and the common use of the incorrect term "RMS Watts", which we have accepted as convention: http://www.n4lcd.com/RMS.pdf
 
Naka TA-1A rated @50 wpc drives my Avid 103's superbly, after I rebuild my Lafayette Reciever. Model LR1500TA caps, transistors.... MY QUESTION will the restored "power" be there to drive the 103's as superbly?
 
Naka TA-1A rated @50 wpc drives my Avid 103's superbly, after I rebuild my Lafayette Reciever. Model LR1500TA caps, transistors.... MY QUESTION will the restored "power" be there to drive the 103's as superbly?

If the question is whether the amplifier will still produce the same power as it did when it was new, the answer is yes, provided that the repair/restoration was done correctly. Arbitrarily replacing all components is not necessarily a good idea. Most of the original components are probably okay, unless it suffered a catastrophic failure. Only replace components that are defective. Finding replacement transistors that have similar characteristics in similar packages to the discontinued originals will be quite challenging, if not impossible. Changing perfectly good transistors with new is foolish. Transistors don't get "weak" like vacuum tubes do. If the characteristics don't measure up to original specs, they are bad, not weak.

I have an LR-1500TA (my own) that I have to repair one of these days. I can then measure the output power in what is understood to be by convention as RMS power into 8 ohms. If this thread still exists at that time, I'll follow up with the results.
 
These were the units that brought ss mainstream. I remember the first time I saw and heard one, my room mate had without me walked by a store, it in the windows, walked in, listened and bought it. Brought it home and realized he had no speakers to hook for it. I can not remember what I was running around the time as my main system was at home. May have been running a set of Jensen. Anyway he decided to hook them up but,having no knowledge proceeded to blow the receiver and a speaker. He got a replacement receiver, bought a pair of their totl speakers and I got it running for him. The sound was very different and impressive; well, for some time. He loved the set but, for my fatigue set in after a couple of hours. By the time we split after the school year, the ear fatigue was not an issue and it all sounded pretty good.
 
I remember hearing a 1500TA in a Lafayette showroom and it sounded horrible on FM. I was 12 at the time. I remember talking to an engineer who said Lafayette poorly designed FM front end was the problem. Well later in life someone gave me a TA and I got a manual and dug into it. The tuner in fact was very good. The MPX decoder was awful and all the FM audio went through it. It would garble the sound and did not switch properly from mono to stereo. They also had a goofy multi-gain audio selector circuit which would break into a subsonic oscillation depending on what audio source was selected. They fixed all these flaws in later models. They had a bunch of mods that were only known to the Lafayette techs in Syosset NY for the TA's and they would not sell parts to independent repair shops. They tried to sue Sam's Photofact for publishing their schematics but lost when a federal court said they were obligated to make service literature available. There was a black market for Lafayette parts for a while and our shop used to refuse to take them in for service entirely because of all the hassles involved. The thud you would hear when turning them on was the full 70 volt supply being thrown across the speakers. That led to the death of many a Criterion speaker system. We devised some mods of our own like a delay relay for the speakers and a MPX circuit that replaced the wacky circuit they devised. By then the units were getting on 15 years old and the new stuff was so much cheaper most audiophiles lost interest. Every once and a while I will run across a TA at a swop meet or garage sale. I will do all the mods and demo them and watch as the listener gets blown away by how good they sound.
 
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