Mechanical transformer noise (buzz)

jmool

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I just installed a Kemp balanced isolator source which has a huge toroidal transformer with a very light buzz....would it be to possible to use cork underneath the transformer to dampen it?

I will open the unit lift the transformer and put cork underneath.

I'm asking this because I have 2mm cork in house.
 
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I just installed a Kemp balanced isolator source which has a huge toroidal transformer with a very light buzz....would it be to possible to use cork underneath the transformer to dampen it?

I will open the unit lift the transformer and put cork underneath.

I'm asking this because I have 2mm cork in house.
Give it a try.What have you got to lose?
 
Yes I want to, but I was just checking if I cannot damaged anything by doing so? ....or maybe burn something?
 
Usually torroidal transformers have a butyl rubber pad under them.
 
Butyl rubber better than cork?

I haven't opened the unit yet, but I saw a picture ones and I Don't think there is any dampening on the transformer at all.
 

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Sadly it didn't help, I tried butyl rubber and cork. None working... Wondering if I can put tar all over the transformer (just like McIntosh is doing with tere transformers).

I was in the local diy shop where they liquid bitume for roofing, this stuff is like tar and staying flexibel....which made me thing of filling the whole cabinet /transformer with the bitume.??
 
DC offset...Hmmm...this unit has a built in DC offset.

Now I'm starting to wonder how good this built in DC offset is
 
Assuming the transformer itself doesn't hum annoyingly and the problem is the chassis is acting as a sounding sounding board, you need a true vibration isolator.

A layer of rubber or cork with mounting screws passing through it, is useless. Most rubber and cork is too stiff anyway. I'd first try a layer of closed cell foam - something like 1/2" thick with no mounting screws at all. The foam needs to be compliant enough to compress something like 20% under the weight of the transformer. If that doesn't work it's a lost cause...

If that foam does work, you need to figure out how to attach the whole mess together while preserving the isolation...
 
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Buzzing transformer means one of a few things. Either the transformer is overloaded (does it buzz when nothing is plugged in?), the windings are loose and buzz, or there's DC on the line causing core saturation.

I have had this issue, and I developed a process to vacuum impregnate transformers with varnish, in my garage. Basically you have a container of varnish inside a vacuum chamber, suck all the air out (under a vacuum, air expands and bubbles out of the varnish) - then heat the transformer in an oven to 150 degrees, for an hour, submerge it into the varnish, and pull a vacuum. You can see the air bubble out as varnish takes its place. I like to let it sit like that for a while, several hours or more, and then put it in front of a heater, and let it bake to dry for a few more hours. This basically locks everything into place. If the transformer was not vacuum impregnated at the factory, you'll never get it totally quiet without doing it yourself. Once a transformer has been properly vacuum impregnated with varnish, everything is locked solid and there's no more hum or buzz unless it is overloaded badly. I used this process successfully with old tube amp transformers, and also, with a Philmore step up transformer I use to power European equipment. It went from sounding like I'm in a substation, to almost dead silent.

I don't like the idea of pouring bitumen into a container, because it's very likely to create more problems than it solves, and more or less just ruin everything. Bitumen can be corrosive, and I wouldn't touch this approach, in this day and age.
 
What type of varnish do you use?

Marine grade spar varnish. The most stinky alkyd based stuff you can find. Obviously water based products aren't a good idea in this application. Electrical specific varnish would be a better idea, but is hard to find in small quantities.
 
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