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bigstereo

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Traded in my 2014 Ram 1500 4 x 4 Express Reg Cab for a 2018 Ram 1500 4 x 4 Big Horn Crew Cab last weekend.
Loved the Express for it's sporty look and it's been paid off since last February but it was Bright White Clearcoat and I had constant issues of brake dust embedding itself in the clear then rusting. This is apparently a problem fairly common with white vehicles and I am getting to old to be clay barring a full size truck every other month.

Besides, the Big Horn is a whole lot fancier inside and out.

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Dodge must of had issues with the clearcoat process .I fail to see how a color alone could have any effect atall.My f150 2003 is white and has only got rust specks from damaged clearcoat.I buffed them out then applied new finish wax and have had zero issues since.My truck is as bare as you can get right down to factory cassette,lol.
 
2011etec said:
Dodge must of had issues with the clearcoat process .I fail to see how a color alone could have any effect atall.My f150 2003 is white and has only got rust specks from damaged clearcoat.I buffed them out then applied new finish wax and have had zero issues since.My truck is as bare as you can get right down to factory cassette,lol.
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It's all over the internet if you look. Mostly referring to "rail dust" deposited on cars as they are transported from the factory by train. It also comes from hot brake dust flying around the vehicle as you drive in traffic. Tiny, hot iron particles. I had to buy a product called Iron X to get it out of the clear, then clay bar. The salt they put down on the roads in winter speeds up the process of the particles oxidizing. Last week after I took my truck to a car wash and sprayed two months of winter crap off I noticed it again all over the truck. At which time I said, Eff this s**t, time to trade her in for a darker color.
 
turnitdown said:
For my own edification...is this something ceramic brakes can cure/abate?
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Well I don't know that. I think that it most likely also comes off the vehicles brakes around you as you drive in traffic. Anyhow, not my problem anymore. I'll never buy another white one.
 
Color is your choice of course but all a darker color will do is hide it ,white has zero effect on whether it rusts or not.My friends newer dodge is white and we live in a harsh enviorment and his is ok.A color alone cannot make rust no matter what people say on the net all it will do is show it easier.If anything id say they have clearcoat issues,if brake dust can pit it that easily.Up where I live not one vehicle arrives by train period.I will buy another white truck anytime.I do understand your frustration though.Same as another buddies that the frame paint rusted totally after less than a year.G.m. redid it though.
 
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Those bumpers look darker than regular chrome, are they what Ram calls "tungsten chrome"? Maybe it's just the color of the truck tricking me.

The BFG KO2s look good on it, much better than the highway tires most new trucks have off the lot.
 
Jailtime said:
Those bumpers look darker than regular chrome, are they what Ram calls "tungsten chrome"? Maybe it's just the color of the truck tricking me.

The BFG KO2s look good on it, much better than the highway tires most new trucks have off the lot.
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No, it's the light playing tricks, bumpers are regular chrome.
The K02's I bought in Fall-2016 and were winter tires on my trade so I had the dealer switch them over. They work great in the snow for me. The Goodyear SRA's that come on the trucks from the factory wear out pretty quick as I experienced on my '14 Ram and '08 Silverado. IMO they are basically just giant sized car tires that have no business even being on a truck.
 
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2011etec said:
Color is your choice of course but all a darker color will do is hide it ,white has zero effect on whether it rusts or not.My friends newer dodge is white and we live in a harsh enviorment and his is ok.A color alone cannot make rust no matter what people say on the net all it will do is show it easier.If anything id say they have clearcoat issues,if brake dust can pit it that easily.Up where I live not one vehicle arrives by train period.I will buy another white truck anytime.I do understand your frustration though.Same as another buddies that the frame paint rusted totally after less than a year.G.m. redid it though.
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Okay
 
Hot rig. I especially like the wheels, and that's a fairly low-maintenance color.

That truck would eat my li'l Ford Ranger for breakfast :music:
 
Jailtime said:
Those bumpers look darker than regular chrome, are they what Ram calls "tungsten chrome"? Maybe it's just the color of the truck tricking me.

The BFG KO2s look good on it, much better than the highway tires most new trucks have off the lot.
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BTW, I did'nt go into detail earlier but The Tungsten Package is a trim level not a chrome color or anything else. I believe that Tungsten is the highest level trim of all Ram trucks. $$$$$
 
Congrats on a really nice truck!

5.7?

Speaking of rust, as I Wish my Cummins 93 & 95 W-250 , 2500 ( bought 2nd hand for decent prices 12 & 9 yrs ago as they were starting to rust thus poor trade ins) 4x4 had been rustproofed with something like Krown as they are in bad shape. I see 4 year old Rams rusting around the rear wheel wells which is just out of warranty. They use as little galvanizing as possible so you have to keep trading or try a good rustproofing.

GM seem almost as bad and Ford has improved since the late 90's and seemed to be the best. and the new aluminum bodies should help. At least the frames don't rot out like on the Asian brands. The Ford Ranger based Mazda pickup should be safe in that regard.
 
Shadowdog said:
Congrats on a really nice truck!

5.7?

Speaking of rust, as I Wish my Cummins 93 & 95 W-250 , 2500 ( bought 2nd hand for decent prices 12 & 9 yrs ago as they were starting to rust thus poor trade ins) 4x4 had been rustproofed with something like Krown as they are in bad shape. I see 4 year old Rams rusting around the rear wheel wells which is just out of warranty. They use as little galvanizing as possible so you have to keep trading or try a good rustproofing.
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Thanks, and yes 5.7L. Those Cummins are bad-ass motors. Would be way overkill for what I use my truck for though, it would never get to flex. It would be like, "Is this all you got? :boring:...."
 
Shadowdog said:
Congrats on a really nice truck!

5.7?

Speaking of rust, as I Wish my Cummins 93 & 95 W-250 , 2500 ( bought 2nd hand for decent prices 12 & 9 yrs ago as they were starting to rust thus poor trade ins) 4x4 had been rustproofed with something like Krown as they are in bad shape. I see 4 year old Rams rusting around the rear wheel wells which is just out of warranty. They use as little galvanizing as possible so you have to keep trading or try a good rustproofing.

GM seem almost as bad and Ford has improved since the late 90's and seemed to be the best. and the new aluminum bodies should help. At least the frames don't rot out like on the Asian brands. The Ford Ranger based Mazda pickup should be safe in that regard.
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Wow, I'd sort of forgotten this was an issue anywhere. It's one reason we end up doing 'rotisserie' restorations on older cars--they have little to no rustproofing so the bodies have to come off and get blasted & treated. It makes all the difference. And of course no one's then driving these restored classics in the salt and snow--at least I hope they're not.

Rust isn't an issue where I live--I never see it, even on 20-yr-old cars. However, my friend who lives in upstate NY says his 10-yr-old car is rusting already. So I guess Manitoba might be like that. Oh wow, I just looked up your town. Wow.
 
bigstereo said:
Traded in my 2014 Ram 1500 4 x 4 Express Reg Cab for a 2018 Ram 1500 4 x 4 Big Horn Crew Cab last weekend.
Loved the Express for it's sporty look and it's been paid off since last February but it was Bright White Clearcoat and I had constant issues of brake dust embedding itself in the clear then rusting. This is apparently a problem fairly common with white vehicles and I am getting to old to be clay barring a full size truck every other month.

Besides, the Big Horn is a whole lot fancier inside and out.

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You shouldn't be getting iron in the paint on a regular basis unless you live near a railroad that has a lot of rail car traffic.

Do you polish and seal after you clay? If you seal with paint sealer that's the best protection, but a good wax would also help. Collonite 476 paste wax is an amazingly cheap and very durable wax.

Have you looked into ironx soap and a clay mitt instead of the clay bar. The mitts are nice because you can just rinse them off instead of throwing them away if you drop them on the ground. Check out autogeek.net (no affiliation) if you're looking for ironx soap and mitts. Lots of pros and serious hobbyists over there to help with detail questions (like here :)).
 
lokerola said:
You shouldn't be getting iron in the paint on a regular basis unless you live near a railroad that has a lot of rail car traffic.

Do you polish and seal after you clay? If you seal with paint sealer that's the best protection, but a good wax would also help. Collonite 476 paste wax is an amazingly cheap and very durable wax.

Have you looked into ironx soap and a clay mitt instead of the clay bar. The mitts are nice because you can just rinse them off instead of throwing them away if you drop them on the ground. Check out autogeek.net (no affiliation) if you're looking for ironx soap and mitts. Lots of pros and serious hobbyists over there to help with detail questions (like here :)).
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There are RR tracks all over in my area especially along my way to work along Lake Erie on NY-5 where the old rusty remnants of the Bethlehem and Republic steel plants are and the humongous Ford stamping plant still operates, those tracks are still heavily used. Right behind the plant I work in is a major RR route, 6 tracks wide..

I have Iron-X gel and spray. Autogeek or Autopia is where I found out about it.
 
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