FireGuruMN
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After years of scrounging around craigslist for values on Pioneer Spec equipment, I finally have enough bits to put together a proper looking rack. Only to learn that the Pioneer Spec racks (JA-R2S) are unobtainium. I pretty much saw that coming. So I developed a plan to make one out of hardwood. Walnut seems a good choice.
So I ordered some rack rails:
Amazon: NavePoint 20U Vertical Rack Rail Pair DIY Kit with Hardware, Black
I have a feeling that I will run into issues because the screw holes in the Pioneer rack appear to be drilled in specific locations for pioneer equipment. But I will burn that bridge when I come to it. Worse case I buy some angle iron and tap my own holes.
Note: This rack rail came with 5mm tapped holes. It said it came with 12/24 but that was not what showed up. Its not a big deal for most people because it comes with a pile of screws that correctly. But I ordered 12/24 silver screws. More on that drama later.
I got 4 of rails because I need about 30U for all my equipment. Either I make 2 racks or one tall one. The original JA R2S rack appears to be 21U of rack space plus wheels and top shelf. The manual says 1140mm which is 45 inches more or less.
Each U is 1.75 inches to 30 will be 52 inches. Round it up to 60 inches for wheels and top shelf. That's probably reasonable for a tall person like me to still run a turntable on the top shelf. It's also cool that Google will convert rack units to inches just like millimetres to inches. Win for Google.
What I want in the rack:
Spec 1: 4U
Spec 4: 4U
RT701: 5U
TX-9600: 4U on a shelf
CT-F1000: 4U on a shelf
CT-F950: 4U on a shelf
Timer: 1U
SG-9500: 3U on a shelf.
Total: about 30U.
I also have some reverb units that would be eye candy.
Here is a diagram from the manual for those that like pictures:

I ordered a couple of shelfs for the equipment that does not have rack ears. Rack ears are another unobtainium item I find. Like $400 for a pair. Oh my. I saw someone who actually forged his own because it was a good value decision. How's that for supply chain issues.
StarTech.com 2U Server Rack Shelf - Universal Vented Rack Mount Cantilever Tray for 19" Network Equipment Rack & Cabinet - Heavy Duty Steel - Weight Capacity 50lb/23kg - 16" Deep Shelf (CABSHELFV)
I let the shelfs sit in the box while I went down the internet rabbit hole searching for screws to match the originals. Here is a picture of original screws from another AK thread that I cannot find anymore to reference:

According to the installation manual these are M5x16 screws.

The screws are pretty easy to find on the interweb. now a search for "angular washers" will get you no where:

A search for "finish washers" will get you stamped versions of the washers that will not work because they will tear up the face of your equipment even if you have the plastic washer.
Eventually I found these:
https://www.wkooa.com/product/stainless-finish-washers-countersunk-solid/

I debated whether to order the M4 or M5. I opted for the M4. These appear to be flared out more than the originals and they were getting pretty huge by the time you went up to M5.

But honestly there appear to be lots of typos in that chart. Like 2 M6 rows? and M5 rows with the same D size an M6 rows. These parts are solid Chinesium so who knows how many translations that chart went through before I found it going down my rabbit hole. Currently these are on the slow boat "speed-pak" from the other side of the world. I may never see them. But WAIT, there's more. . .
I decided to open up my overpriced stamped metal shelfs and lookee what was in there:

I was more excited than those guys on The Curse of Oak Island when they find another rusty ox shoe.
So I went down a different rabbit hole and found these:
StarTech.com M5 x 12mm - Screws - 100 Pack - M5 Mounting Screws for Server Rack & Cabinet (CABSCREWSM5)
I bought them for $39.99 for 100pack and it said it was the last one. Then I went in to take a picture for this write up and suddenly there are "only 18 left" and the price is $46.82 each. I have trust issues with Amazon.
Pictures. I like pictures too.

I also placed an order for these which I will no longer need but in case someone just needs bolts, here you go:
M5-0.8 x 25mm Stainless Steel Oval Head Machine Screws, 304 Stainless Steel 18-8, Phillips Drive, Bright Finish, Full Coarse Thread UNC, 50 PCS
They might be a bit long at 25mm but who cares. The 12mm ones from Startek might be a bit short.
oh my what a ramble. I'm starting a new post, This is getting too long.
So I ordered some rack rails:
Amazon: NavePoint 20U Vertical Rack Rail Pair DIY Kit with Hardware, Black
I have a feeling that I will run into issues because the screw holes in the Pioneer rack appear to be drilled in specific locations for pioneer equipment. But I will burn that bridge when I come to it. Worse case I buy some angle iron and tap my own holes.
Note: This rack rail came with 5mm tapped holes. It said it came with 12/24 but that was not what showed up. Its not a big deal for most people because it comes with a pile of screws that correctly. But I ordered 12/24 silver screws. More on that drama later.
I got 4 of rails because I need about 30U for all my equipment. Either I make 2 racks or one tall one. The original JA R2S rack appears to be 21U of rack space plus wheels and top shelf. The manual says 1140mm which is 45 inches more or less.
Each U is 1.75 inches to 30 will be 52 inches. Round it up to 60 inches for wheels and top shelf. That's probably reasonable for a tall person like me to still run a turntable on the top shelf. It's also cool that Google will convert rack units to inches just like millimetres to inches. Win for Google.
What I want in the rack:
Spec 1: 4U
Spec 4: 4U
RT701: 5U
TX-9600: 4U on a shelf
CT-F1000: 4U on a shelf
CT-F950: 4U on a shelf
Timer: 1U
SG-9500: 3U on a shelf.
Total: about 30U.
I also have some reverb units that would be eye candy.
Here is a diagram from the manual for those that like pictures:

I ordered a couple of shelfs for the equipment that does not have rack ears. Rack ears are another unobtainium item I find. Like $400 for a pair. Oh my. I saw someone who actually forged his own because it was a good value decision. How's that for supply chain issues.
StarTech.com 2U Server Rack Shelf - Universal Vented Rack Mount Cantilever Tray for 19" Network Equipment Rack & Cabinet - Heavy Duty Steel - Weight Capacity 50lb/23kg - 16" Deep Shelf (CABSHELFV)
I let the shelfs sit in the box while I went down the internet rabbit hole searching for screws to match the originals. Here is a picture of original screws from another AK thread that I cannot find anymore to reference:

According to the installation manual these are M5x16 screws.
The screws are pretty easy to find on the interweb. now a search for "angular washers" will get you no where:
A search for "finish washers" will get you stamped versions of the washers that will not work because they will tear up the face of your equipment even if you have the plastic washer.
Eventually I found these:
https://www.wkooa.com/product/stainless-finish-washers-countersunk-solid/
I debated whether to order the M4 or M5. I opted for the M4. These appear to be flared out more than the originals and they were getting pretty huge by the time you went up to M5.

But honestly there appear to be lots of typos in that chart. Like 2 M6 rows? and M5 rows with the same D size an M6 rows. These parts are solid Chinesium so who knows how many translations that chart went through before I found it going down my rabbit hole. Currently these are on the slow boat "speed-pak" from the other side of the world. I may never see them. But WAIT, there's more. . .
I decided to open up my overpriced stamped metal shelfs and lookee what was in there:

I was more excited than those guys on The Curse of Oak Island when they find another rusty ox shoe.
So I went down a different rabbit hole and found these:
StarTech.com M5 x 12mm - Screws - 100 Pack - M5 Mounting Screws for Server Rack & Cabinet (CABSCREWSM5)
I bought them for $39.99 for 100pack and it said it was the last one. Then I went in to take a picture for this write up and suddenly there are "only 18 left" and the price is $46.82 each. I have trust issues with Amazon.
Pictures. I like pictures too.

I also placed an order for these which I will no longer need but in case someone just needs bolts, here you go:
M5-0.8 x 25mm Stainless Steel Oval Head Machine Screws, 304 Stainless Steel 18-8, Phillips Drive, Bright Finish, Full Coarse Thread UNC, 50 PCS
They might be a bit long at 25mm but who cares. The 12mm ones from Startek might be a bit short.
oh my what a ramble. I'm starting a new post, This is getting too long.


















































