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Sansui BA-3000 Transformer

BradWil

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Recently did the full Leestereo restoration of a lovely BA3K for a customer. Unit was working perfectly for some weeks until it died.:(
Kudos to Ben for yet another invaluable resto reference! :beerchug:

Background: the unit was of unknown origin and service history. It's a global voltage model that had been set to 220V by someone in the past. It was sold to my customer within Australia so no idea how long it had been run on 240V but set to 220V. The native voltage here in Australia is 240V. Not overly uncommon to see this after units have been imported from Europe. Of course, I altered the jumpers to 240V as soon as it hit my bench. It was all original internally and no sign of previous work, all was factory.

Symptom: It blew the main fuse and after the customer replaced it, no power at all, no blown replacement fuse. No hard use, happened at power on.

Diagnosis: I removed the F-2511 protection board and found R01 (3.9Ω 7W) had gone high (470MΩ), R02 (3.9Ω 7W) was fine. I replaced them both anyway. Unit powered on but failed DBT instantly, even with the power amps disconnected. I suspected the bridge rectifiers but both sets D01/02 and D03/04 tested fine. Also, all the fuses on the protection board were fine. All semis on F-2511 are original and tested fine. Began testing the transformer for resistance and shorts to ground. Found the +/- 46V secondary taps were both shorted to ground. That’s the blue wires from the transformer to pins 5 & 6 of F-2511.

Before I embark on a search for another transformer or doner unit at crazy money, wanted to sanity check with you folk and see if others have had similar experiences with the BA-3000?
 

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Given that the winding center tap is connected to ground shouldn't you be measuring very low ohms from blue to chassis ground anyway (ie look like a short)?
 
0.39Ω from each blue wire to ground. 0.63Ω blue to blue. Too low?
Might be OK :dunno: - however this is where a DBT or perhaps better a Variac would come in handy. But first completely isolate the transformer from all connections, other than incoming AC from a DBT and/or Variac, then measure/monitor secondary voltage behaviour.

I don't think there is any significance in the fact that your mains voltage is ~240V and the unit is set for 220V, IMO unlikely to cause damage to anything in the short or long-term. Also if it is a transformer primary fault (hopefully not), it would have shown up whatever the voltage setting.
 
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I have a variac with DBT (100W) attached. What would you suggest here John?
Excellent.

As above double check the voltage setting jumpers, and then apply just a sniff of AC to the Primaries, monitor the (completely isolated) secondary voltage - and increase the Variac voltage to see if the transformer is behaving correctly. Say 10% of 'voltage in' giving you 10% of the expected voltage out. You can increase the voltage and see what happens, if all is well, the DBT shouldn't light up at any point.

Try this and report back. - (NB: NO connections of any kind to any secondary - apart from multimeter).

Good Luck!

(I appreciate it may take a while for you to set this test up, I'll be watching this and will help you with checks until we confirm the transformer status one way or another ;) ).
 
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@BradWil The transformer will likely be fine. Isolate it and power it up unloaded as @Hyperion suggested.

Our "nominal" voltage in Australia is now officially 230V (with a wider allowable tolerance) and most of the time, you'll still see ~240V. Sometimes you might get taps adjusted by the power company where it's a bit high or low, but only after jumping up and down and getting a few data loggers hung off your poles, breaker board and a GPO two.

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Depending on where you are and how much local solar infeed you have, the voltage can fluctuate quite a bit. Right now, with (7pm at night) I have 245V (+6.5%) at my lab bench and it's past peak usage time and it's dark (no solar).

WA often has higher voltages ~250V.
 
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