Speaker choice Klipsch Hersey IV'S or KLH fives?

Yes thanks for the update and congrats--they look great. Sorry it hasn't gone to plan so far. Looks like it could be a pretty live room in there (?) which isn't maybe what they want as much. Keep moving stuff and keep us posted :)
 
Congratulations on them! Have you worked with placement and toe-in etc? How far away is your listening position? I only ask as they appear to be pretty close together and have some toe-in - wondering if you got them further apart and/or changed the toe-in angle if would change things much for you.
 
Thanks. I've been playing around with placement and think I've finally got really close to awesome sound. Have speakers 13.5 inches away from wall and 6ft apart with toe in about 10 to 15 degrees. My listening distance right at 12ft.
 
Finally found the sweet spot. I think some of the problem is I've never heard a speaker that was as close to live performance as possible. Some notes are very forward but instruments sound like that naturally in real life.
 

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Well they look amazing. Just curious have you tried having them pointing straight ahead versus toed in? I only ask because I've been recently messing around with placement with different speakers in one of my setups and found that depending on the dispersion characteristics of the speaker, less toe-in was better. (Sometimes no toe-in). In some cases the off-axis response was more linear.

With some setups I've had good luck with just opposite - aggressively toeing in and pointing the speaker well past the listening position, so essentially the speakers cross in front of you. My office set up is this way - kind of opens up the soundstage. Fun to experiment
 
Haven't tried just straight yet but will just to see. I've probably put about 8 to 10 hours on them and it seems to have gained a little more bass and lost some of that forward top end. I think these speakers can be awesome but like you mentioned will need adjustments due to room conditions. It's not a black and white setup like most. I listen to alot of rock on vinyl and this seems to be the niche of this product.
 
I wonder if the bare area on the floor right in front of the speakers might contribute to the sound being somewhat forward.
 
Guido57 said:
I wonder if the bare area on the floor right in front of the speakers might contribute to the sound being somewhat forward.
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A rug would help the acoustic issues that room appears to be suffering because of it's highly reflective acoustic profile (from what is visible in the pictures). Horn speakers in acoustically reflective rooms typically give the kind of results that make people averse to horns.
 
I don't know if it was the room, receiver etc but for 3k I'm not impressed. I've heard better at half the costs. My 1000.00 reference Klipsch were a little better. I think the heritage line is overated for the price point.

Going to be sending these back and trying out the KLH fives. Hopefully will be the ones.
I tried toe in, out, straight ahead, up against the wall and all the way to 2ft away. Once I thought I had it close another record would show me differently.
 
infinity85 said:
I don't know if it was the room, receiver etc but for 3k I'm not impressed. I've heard better at half the costs. My 1000.00 reference Klipsch were a little better. I think the heritage line is overated for the price point.

Going to be sending these back and trying out the KLH fives. Hopefully will be the ones.
I tried toe in, out, straight ahead, up against the wall and all the way to 2ft away. Once I thought I had it close another record would show me differently.
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Made in USA vs made in China is part of the price difference.
Sounds like the H4s are letting you hear more of the upstream components and the recording.
 
It could very well be. I'm thinking about a set of Wharfdale Linton heritage 3 ways. They look very throw back and have read some good things on them might try first. Stands are free from Crutchfield right now.
 
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infinity85 said:
It could very well be. I'm thinking about a set of Wharfedale Linton 3 ways. They look very throw back and have read some good things on them. Might try first.
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Be careful driving them with a receiver, something that has no problems with 4 ohms (3 ohms) is best.
 
infinity85 said:
Can't find any info but will 6 ohms be a problem for the KR-8050?
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Don't believe everything the manufacturers won't tell you.

"The impedance is specified as 6 ohms; the solid trace in fig.1 shows that the Linton's impedance is close to 6 ohms for much of the audioband. However, the minimum magnitude is 3.4 ohms at 130Hz, and there is a demanding combination of 5 ohms magnitude and –46° electrical phase angle (dotted trace) at 83Hz. The Wharfedale will work best with amplifiers that are comfortable driving 4 ohms."

https://www.stereophile.com/content/wharfedale-linton-heritage-loudspeaker-measurements
 
The KR-8050 is rated for 4 ohm speakers so long as only one pair is driven, per the owners manual as found on hifiengine. In addition to not using the 'power boost' one might not want to use the '50 Hz boost', though I don't think it would be needed any way. Also remember that the loudness control is meant for low volumes. If you do get the Littons please post your impressions. Thought of getting a pair but wife prefers the look of towers; (actually she prefers speakers she can't see).
 
opnly bafld said:
Don't believe everything the manufacturers won't tell you.

"The impedance is specified as 6 ohms; the solid trace in fig.1 shows that the Linton's impedance is close to 6 ohms for much of the audioband. However, the minimum magnitude is 3.4 ohms at 130Hz, and there is a demanding combination of 5 ohms magnitude and –46° electrical phase angle (dotted trace) at 83Hz. The Wharfedale will work best with amplifiers that are comfortable driving 4 ohms."

https://www.stereophile.com/content/wharfedale-linton-heritage-loudspeaker-measurements
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Agreed. Treat this loudspeaker as a 3.4 ohm load. Since it drops that low.
 
Looks to me like the room desperately needs some treatment. That said, have you considered the new JBL L100s? From all accounts I have read, they are quite good all around. Just a suggestion.
 
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