The De-Manification of Speakers: An American Tragedy

lighting up a room, until Zonker showed me otherwise...

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Beautiful!! :tresbon:
 
I feel this is a non-issue. There are some fantastic sounding small speakers, as others have said. If you don't have a large space, big speakers do not fit.

I think it has more to do with measurements and modern engineering - you don't need monstrosities to have good sound.

Its not a question of Needing them, but there are other design concerns at issue here. For instance - if you run SET amplifiers, you will not be getting great sound with small box speakers. Check out the high efficiency speakers thread for more on that tangent.

There is a place in home audio for Klipschorns, Altecs and the like :banana:
 
Its not a question of Needing them, but there are other design concerns at issue here. For instance - if you run SET amplifiers, you will not be getting great sound with small box speakers. Check out the high efficiency speakers thread for more on that tangent.

There is a place in home audio for Klipschorns, Altecs and the like :banana:

But what about the other threads where REAL men run as many watts as possible? Seems to be some competing factors here.

I think the real man runs whatever the hell he wants, big or small, and cares not one bit about what a bunch of other men think.
 
I think that those of us who "get" audio live in one world. The rest of the world lives in a different world, and, frankly, in that other world, sound quality just isn't important.

Period.

How else do you explain:
  • All the crappy vintage systems that were out there (before you get all worked up, you have to admit that back in the day that there were just as many crappy systems as there are today - the bell curve that describes the quality of audio systems was pretty much the same shape as it is now)
  • The rapid rise in popularity of low bit-rate MP3, iTunes, satellite radio, and HD Radio formats
  • The extreme popularity of the tiny box home theater speaker systems
We just gotta face it: as people who really care about the quality of the sound our systems produce, we are in a vast minority.
 
But what about the other threads where REAL men run as many watts as possible? Seems to be some competing factors here.

I think the real man runs whatever the hell he wants, big or small, and cares not one bit about what a bunch of other men think.

Then have more than one system! I had a 600w HK Citation on a JBL 18 sub and pair couple of Adcom GFA-555s running biamped JBL 4341 monitors until a couple weeks ago. Got Jolida tubes on the upstairs system with L200s and a big ol' Walnut horn. Its not a male thing ... its a fidelity thing ...
But I did put wheeled plinths on all the bigger ones just so I could move them without damaging the veneer by myself.

I don't like L100s, some of my friends do - so they have some and I don't.

Guess that's what you mean, own whatever-in-hell you like,
and don't worry about it.
Long as my ears work I'll enjoy this stuff ...
 
Mainly for convenience, I went from moderately large speakers, Klipsch Forte to stand mounts (alternating Polk S4 and Energy) C-2) and subwoofer. I’m glad I was forced to make the move because I would never have done it otherwise. Those little speakers and subwoofer beat out any big speaker I've ever owned by a long shot.
 
I tend to think that if everybody was running big speakers, people would be pissed off about that, too. You can't tell me that a certain appeal to all of this isn't the feeling of being "special" that some get out of being in a niche group that's into something that on the face of it, seems impractical. But you know what happens when everybody's special? Nobody is. (sorry Incredibles, I think I slaughtered that quote).
 
I think the real man runs whatever the hell he wants, big or small, and cares not one bit about what a bunch of other men think.
I think such a healthy attitude has no place in this thread. More pictures of manly speakers!

note the plasma tweeter, for extra man-points:
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no photoshop needed for this man-sized woofer:
 
My wife freely admits to not being able to hear the difference in different speakers. However, she does not object to me having large speakers in the living room. I was running some Boston Acoustics T1000's with the light oak veneer in the living room. They were recently replaced by some EPI A240's that I refurbished, which included replacing the vinyl with a cherry veneer. These are wider than the Boston's and equally as high, since they are on some short stands. She actually likes them better, since the darker wood fits in better with the decor. :tresbon: I'll keep her!
 
But what about the other threads where REAL men run as many watts as possible? Seems to be some competing factors here.

I think the real man runs whatever the hell he wants, big or small, and cares not one bit about what a bunch of other men think.

I think we are starting to lose sight of the tongue in cheek nature of this thread.:scratch2::smoke::music:

Others have sorta gotten to the root of big vs little...it isnt about sound quality so much as it is about efficiency.

Nowadays we can generally afford to throw all the power we need at any speaker design. :thmbsp:
 
I think we are starting to lose sight of the tongue in cheek nature of this thread.:scratch2::smoke::music:

Others have sorta gotten to the root of big vs little...it isnt about sound quality so much as it is about efficiency.

Nowadays we can generally afford to throw all the power we need at any speaker design. :thmbsp:

Yeah, I'm not taking this as seriously as it seems but I really think some people are chasing the wrong dragons. Buy the speakers that sound best, not the ones that are biggest. Unless the biggest sound the best...and that's not always the case, at least in my experience. They can sound great...

My experience with big amps also differs. I don't know that there's a big amp around that sounds as good as the better small amps. But then, we're typically back at bigger speakers because they're more efficient.

I HAVE seen a lot of big speakers in fancy homes, though. They're not nonexistent. Also, some of those homes have dedicated rooms to hide it all in. WAF isn't just a wife thing though. I have JAF. If John thinks its ugly it goes away. But big isn't automatically ugly.
 
Co-habitation is about compromise. If you're going to demand giant speakers in the living room, have the decency to get ones that look nice.

Like:
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I AM THE MAN IN MY FAMILY AND I WILL BRING IN WHATEVER SPEAKERS AND GEAR I WISH TO AND SET IT UP IN A FASHION THAT GIVES ME PLEASURE.








Well really I have the best wife in the world and while the above statement may be true, the other truth is that she has a very nice garden, green house, flower beds, a garden bay kitchen window, etc.etc. All dug, shoveled, picked, hammered, screwed, built, provided and sweated over by me. Moral is... happy wife happy life.
 
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Well really I have the best wife in the world and while the above statement may be true, the other truth is that she has a very nice garden, green house, flower beds, a garden bay kitchen window, etc.etc. All dug, shoveled, picked, hammered, screwed, built, provided and sweated over by me. Moral is... happy wife happy life.

Same here, the heaviest work in the yard comes my way, the rewards are such that I can enjoy my rest with whatever sort of sound I like.

Around her WAF consists of not getting the stack of speakers so high it blocks the access to the window shades... (I cut back from 5 pairs to 3 after that comment, and peace reigns once again.)

Over the weekend I had my 2.5 Wayves (Ewave thread for pics) out in the yard on stands for our cookout, then on Monday I rolled the PA speakers out to spiff up (L300 like components). While I was cleaning them I had them hooked up in place of the Wayves, and heard my wife telling my son "Dad's speakers always sound so clear!" She does get it!

Small for me is EPI100, it's got to have some decent lows!
 
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