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Time-aligned speakers- who builds them?

Before this discussion goes any further, perhaps we should make sure we've got our definitions right. Here's a link to a great article written by Roy Johnson from Green Mountain Audio about time and phase corherence.

http://www.greenmountainaudio.com/time-and-phase-coherence

Roy also wrote a great white paper about why multiple drivers and first-order crossovers are required for time-and-phase-coherence. Let me see if I can find it.
 
Tannoy Dual Concentrics may be quite well time aligned.


Doubtful. For one thing the coil and diaphragm of the tweeter are behind the coil of the woofer, this is true of Altec coaxials too and probably of most others. The Altec took some fancy crossover work to be time aligned as in the Urie monitor.
 
A letter never published Fried

]Auricle Publishing ©2008
Fried Letter to Stereophile
by Richard Hardesty
I believe that speakers should preserve the integrity
of the signal waveform and the Audio Perfectionist
Journal has presented a great deal of information
about the importance of time domain performance in
loudspeakers. I’m not the only one who appreciates
time- and phase-accurate speakers but I have been
virtually the only advocate to speak out in print in
recent years. There’s a reason for that.
Few of today’s high-end loudspeakers are time- and
phase-accurate designs. The audio magazines need
to appeal to a broad spectrum of advertisers including
many who make speaker systems which are time
incoherent. The magazines, and the reviewers who
write for them, have ignored or downplayed the issue
of time- and phase-accuracy in order to maximize
advertising revenue. As you can see from this letter I
am not alone in recognizing this situation.
Legendary speaker designer Irving M. “Bud” Fried
wrote a letter about this subject to John Atkinson,
editor of Stereophile magazine, in response to a comment
that John made in one of his product reviews.
Stereophile chose not to publish Fried’s letter but I
received a copy. Following is an edited version for
your information.
July 20, 2002
Dear Mr. Atkinson,
This communication is offered for the sake of objectivity
and “truth” (a commodity not in high regard
these last few weeks, at least in the world of commerce).
In your August 2002 issue, page 63, you wrote “the
use of a high order crossover means that the MBL
111B is not time coherent (not that that really matters).”
I think it really does matter and I’ll provide
some evidence.
Within the last two years, in what I believe was the
December 2000 issue of the English magazine “HI
FI NEWS,” an article appeared, written, I believe, by
Keith Howard, which detailed the following:
Using a B&W Nautilus Loudspeaker, which has sharp
filters and thus is not time coherent, a tape was specially
prepared of several kinds of music. This tape
was digitally time corrected, so that the resulting
output from the B&W speakers, was a time coherent
signal.
An expert listening panel compared the output of the
speaker from the digitally time corrected tape to the
output of the speaker from the uncorrected tapes. The
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entire listening panel voted unanimously for the superior realism
and accuracy of the time corrected output! The article concluded
that this should put to rest for all time the misconception
that time accuracy is not important for high quality reproduction,
contrary to the belief that your quotation expresses!
Michael Gerzon, in lab work for B&W some ten years before,
arrived at the same conclusion. You may remember that he is
the creator of “Ambisonics”—mentioned in various writings of
yours truly.
Yet the new super speakers that turn up in the marketplace
are overwhelmingly non-time coherent! Perhaps this really is
due entirely to “commercial considerations,” as I was once told
by my dear friend Raymond Cooke, founder and Managing
Director of the esteemed KEF brand, when I questioned him on
why KEF speakers were not time coherent.
I interpreted Mr. Cooke’s comment to mean that “it’s too expensive
to make KEF speakers time coherent.” And so, with his
help, I proceeded to make my own brands time coherent!
I have demonstrated the same condition of “time coherence”
for many years—and written extensively about it. Perhaps it
is time for your readers to hear that time coherence has its
proponents—even though it is not much in evidence in today’s
“super speakers.” In fact, the more time coherent loudspeaker
condition is always preferred by those who value ”live” sound
quality over “commercial considerations.”
I am always available at the stated address—if readers want
the other side of the coin.
Sincerely,
Irving M. (Bud) Fried
300 E. Lancaster Ave.
Wynnewood, PA 19096
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APJ
Living in Colorado Springs, I got to hear the late Roy Johnson's entire line of speakers.
The best speakers to come out of his factory were the Continuum 3's, but Roy was a much better physicist than business man.
He made some of the best speakers ever, but never made a true accountant's profit on a pair.
I beat his Continuum 3's with a pair of completely gutted and re-done Imaggos.
Roy was so furious with me that he threatened to sue me, if I ever referred to them as GMA's.
 
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