Turntable with a 750US dollar buget

Decision made. Bid made on a nice WTRP! Now we wait. Will update progress as I hear. Thanks to everyone for helping me out with this......then its speaker choosing time.
 
good luck in the whole process, and welcome!(this from one who currently owns a very vintage, dependable table that set me back $40 to buy, and which I've probably sunk another $400 in for a range of cartridges, a belt,
and headshells. Bear in mind that you might wish to obtain a decent phono amp pretty quickly, as that will improve the sound out of that JVC, and help control your upgrade path a bit!
 
Update:

Been busy sourcing a table within the budget- but after the well tempered( that I matched the price for never got back to me), the SOTA (with the humming motor, a new motor is about $600) and the pro-ject that wasnt actually still available for sale...but it was still listed...fiasco..........
I found one:banana:, thanks to the constant help of John "Mister Pig", a project 6.1 with a nice cartridge. 78 speed compatible for my new beach boys 10". So it looks good. Having a pain trying to my credit/debit card verified through paypal though...so thats all that is holding up the transaction. I will update when I have more information. This will be the workhorse TT, the next one will be the vintage one I'll make over time........oh and an early 60s dansette...some 45s only sound good on one of these...I dont know why! :music:
 
bubba ho tep said:
Been busy sourcing a table within the budget- but after the well tempered( that I matched the price for never got back to me), the SOTA (with the humming motor, a new motor is about $600) and the pro-ject that wasnt actually still available for sale...but it was still listed...fiasco..........
I found one:banana:, thanks to the constant help of John "Mister Pig", a project 6.1 with a nice cartridge. 78 speed compatible for my new beach boys 10". So it looks good. Having a pain trying to my credit/debit card verified through paypal though...so thats all that is holding up the transaction. I will update when I have more information. This will be the workhorse TT, the next one will be the vintage one I'll make over time........oh and an early 60s dansette...some 45s only sound good on one of these...I dont know why! :music:
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Congrats on your almost-purchase!

I was just thinking of suggesting not worrying about having a 78 speed on your TT, but consider getting a lesser TT that runs at 78 and using that on exclusively for 78's. But maybe that (and your homebrew one being TT#3?) won't pass muster and WAF (look it up.:)).

The reason being that to go from playing an LP to a 78 you have to change cartridge (not a big deal if the arm has a modular/detachable headshell, like the SL-1200) or at least the stylus (usually a big deal, and even when not, you still risk breaking something expensive by moving these things around), and you ALSO need to readjust the tracking force (even with the same cartridge, a 78 stylus usually has a tracking for range higher than an LP stylus). It's easy to forget things like resetting the tracking force (don't ask how I know...).

With all that, if you can afford it both money-wise and physical space-wise, it's easier to have a second TT set up exclusively for '78's. But if you don't expect to switch between playing LP's and 78's often, this may not be that big a deal.
 
Oops I should of explained better. The only 78 I have at the moment in the country is The new beachboys one which is a microgroove 10",so I wouldn't need to change the cartridge for that right? The more I think about it, the more separate systems I want down the line....this could turn into a unhealthy addiction!

Though a table purely for 78s is a top notch idea.....in time perhaps I can even convince the wife....but I have to get her used to the first TurnTable first.

.........this whole process would have run so much smoother if I was a bachelor! The things we do for love....indeed:nutz:
 
I sense you're starting with the turntable and upgrade from there. I saw one Pink Triangle, it had motor issues. I wasn't impressed with that small motor. The Linn arm on that table, is going on a Lenco in the near future (that Lenco will be my Lenco). I like Sota turntables well as a rule. A Star Sapphire is nice to own. I like better Regas and the VPI decks and arms are nice. I like older Thorens also in belt driven tables. My main loves are upper end idler and DD broadcast decks.
 
benb said:
Congrats on your almost-purchase!

I was just thinking of suggesting not worrying about having a 78 speed on your TT, but consider getting a lesser TT that runs at 78 and using that on exclusively for 78's. But maybe that (and your homebrew one being TT#3?) won't pass muster and WAF (look it up.:)).

The reason being that to go from playing an LP to a 78 you have to change cartridge (not a big deal if the arm has a modular/detachable headshell, like the SL-1200) or at least the stylus (usually a big deal, and even when not, you still risk breaking something expensive by moving these things around), and you ALSO need to readjust the tracking force (even with the same cartridge, a 78 stylus usually has a tracking for range higher than an LP stylus). It's easy to forget things like resetting the tracking force (don't ask how I know...).

With all that, if you can afford it both money-wise and physical space-wise, it's easier to have a second TT set up exclusively for '78's. But if you don't expect to switch between playing LP's and 78's often, this may not be that big a deal.
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Actually the 78 issue can be solved quite easily with this table. The 6.1 used a plinth that is basically the same size as the platter. So it is possible to fabricate a block or pod to hold a second arm. This arm can be set up for 78's, so the speed option on the 6.1 won't be wasted. This should be cheaper than having to buy a whole second table to play these other records.

Regards
Mister Pig
 
Mister Pig said:
Actually the 78 issue can be solved quite easily with this table. The 6.1 used a plinth that is basically the same size as the platter. So it is possible to fabricate a block or pod to hold a second arm. This arm can be set up for 78's, so the speed option on the 6.1 won't be wasted. This should be cheaper than having to buy a whole second table to play these other records.

Regards
Mister Pig
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Top idea:thmbsp:
Next Ill want three arms on the TT. One for the 78s, one for the good records, and the other for thrift store vinyl finds!...if thats possible of course
 
I would pick a new turntable, manual is good, like a thorens at a price point where you can buy the best cartridge possible for that model, and replace the cartridge when you are supposed to. I would not buy a used turntable because too many goofy things can destroy them and unless you are skilled at diagniostics and repair you are just ruining the vinyl.

I know this is good advice bec it comes from my big brother in the biz for 40 years.
 
bubba ho tep said:
I found one:banana:, thanks to the constant help of John "Mister Pig", a project 6.1 with a nice cartridge.
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:thmbsp: :music:

bubba ho tep said:
Top idea:thmbsp:
Next Ill want three arms on the TT. One for the 78s, one for the good records, and the other for thrift store vinyl finds!...if thats possible of course
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If you make your own armpods to put around the 6.1 you can go up to four arms. :thmbsp:
(table with removable headshell on the arms makes this approach a bit more out-of-the box of course)
If you're not afraid of a bit of diy here's an affordable route into the multi arm domain;
http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?t=363527
 
Sweet idea!

A hemi-octo spinner or a quadralimb floorfilla!:scratch2:
Those frankenstein macguyered steampunk arms are amazing! Now to talk the wife into it!...and i was just thinking about fabricating a sandbox for isolation too....now to think of a way to do that and add arms...one top begin with..more in time/hopefully.
Really really good idea. I was worried about damaging my gear while changing arms/carts depending on media type and quality, but this seems the obvious step forward!

Oh the check for the TT clears May 3rd...so it will be shipped then....so 2 weeks from now I can be playing some wax for the first time in 2 years!(that is a crime)
Like a kid before christmas:yippy:

voltcontrol said:
:thmbsp: :music:



If you make your own armpods to put around the 6.1 you can go up to four arms. :thmbsp:
(table with removable headshell on the arms makes this approach a bit more out-of-the box of course)
If you're not afraid of a bit of diy here's an affordable route into the multi arm domain;
http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?t=363527
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bubba ho tep said:
Oops I should of explained better. The only 78 I have at the moment in the country is The new beachboys one which is a microgroove 10",so I wouldn't need to change the cartridge for that right? The more I think about it, the more separate systems I want down the line....this could turn into a unhealthy addiction!

Though a table purely for 78s is a top notch idea.....in time perhaps I can even convince the wife....but I have to get her used to the first TurnTable first.

.........this whole process would have run so much smoother if I was a bachelor! The things we do for love....indeed:nutz:
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I've never heard of a microgroove 78, though I've played at least one Audiodisc with the "78" groove that played at 33 and 45 (and from the inside out as well as the outside in, some of these all on one record!)
Mister Pig said:
Actually the 78 issue can be solved quite easily with this table. The 6.1 used a plinth that is basically the same size as the platter. So it is possible to fabricate a block or pod to hold a second arm. This arm can be set up for 78's, so the speed option on the 6.1 won't be wasted. This should be cheaper than having to buy a whole second table to play these other records.

Regards
Mister Pig
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That's a great idea! I've only seen online pics of multi-arm TT's, never one in RL, so that hadn't even crossed my mind.
bubba ho tep said:
Top idea:thmbsp:
Next Ill want three arms on the TT. One for the 78s, one for the good records, and the other for thrift store vinyl finds!...if thats possible of course
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Sure it is, that would be ideal. I've played lots of thrift store LP's with an original non-a AT440ML over the past 10 years, and it STILL has the stylus and STILL sounds great! No doubt running every new-to-me LP through a vacuum RCM helps a lot.
 
Microgroove 78 RPM discs exist. Many late issue 1950's examples are out there, many issued to radio stations or the post 1955 ones. Audiophile Records issued them as well. And those Ewing D. Nunn Good Old Reds are audio heaven.
 
It's here It's finally here!

Tiz in perfect condition, just unpacking and assembling now....:banana:
So in the end I got a Pro-Ject RPM 6.1 SB with Ortofon 540 Mk. II cart for 750 Canadian dollars which was over budget but I'm not caring.
That said it took so long to get here due to a billing error with paypal...charge me twice...leaving my account empty. It's rather embarrassing leaving all your groceries at a checkout when your card is declined!
long story including phone being cut off, closing bank account,opening a new one, bypassing paypal ... and almost 3 weeks later I have my turntable. Now if I can only work out how to put it all together.

I must admit the seller was top notch. He put up with all the crap that went on over paypal, even knocked some cash off the deal and included shipping...sweet!

Once again a big thanks goes out to Mister Pig for helping me through this whole process, wouldn't have done it with him:thmbsp:
 
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