TWO more Sansui G-22000's

STP

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They are falling out of the woodwork. It must be sell your G-22000/G-33000 month or something. I've never seen so frigging many of these big beasts for sale, so often. G-22000 last night went for typical $1K+. Here's the next two.... One doesn't work, one does.

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Very interesting! I'm local to this auction, but I have to question the multiple bidding he's asking? One works, one doesn't and he doesn't indicate which of the two is damaged? Being the inquistive Moot I am I sent him an email inquiry.

But you're absolutely right. High prices on ebay certainly has resulted in a flurry of closet and basement cleaning?!?

:)

Cheers,

Moot
 
SolderIron said:
Makes it hard to tell how rare some item really is.

Yes, this is precisely why we need to determine Sansui's total units produced by model series somehow.
 
it's a dutch auction, by mistake

I emailed him (her?) to let them know they have a dutch auction going, and could end up with two winners. We'll see what happens. If it ends up with multiple last minute bids he could have a mess to deal with with deciding who gets the items. Local pickup only could mean one bidder shows up. If I was local I'd contact the seller and try to see the items in person before bidding.

as for values and supplies.....here's my 2 cents....
Total numbers produced don't matter. There's a Marantz 7 preamp up for sale every week, sometimes 2 each week. They still keep climing in value. Thousands were made. Not a few thousand, but over 10,000 at least. Same for the Garrard 301 turntable. What matters is if the number of potential buyers is increasing faster than the supply - not the number made, but the current supply. Then prices climb. Places like AK help to educate buyers and increase the supply of new buyers. Websites like the Classsic Marantz, Silver Pioneer, and thevintageknob have all had an impact on the educating buyers to classic audio products.

IMHO rarity does not always equate to valuable in the vintage audio game. I have a Kenwood KR-7200 (TOTL 1973) receiver that almost never comes up for sale on eBay. Yet I don't think it's worth more than $50. People have to want to have it for it to be valuable.

It almost doesn't matter if Sansui made 50 or 5000 of the G22k, what matters is if there are 5 or 50 buyers for the 4 or 5 units on the market.
 
The dude selling the 2 G-22K's has a statement on his auction that reads:

"On Nov-16-05 at 14:00:24 PST, seller added the following information:

THIS IS NOT A DUTCH AUCTION,HIGH BIDDER GETS BOTH UNITS.THANKS FOR ALL THE EMAILS AND ADVISE.A WORKING G22000 IS WORTH OVER 1000.00.DONT WANT TO RELIST THEM AS 2 SALES NOW THAT THE AUCTION IS GOING ON.HOPE ALL THE WATCHERS SEE THIS UPDATE.THANKS AGAIN FOR ALL THE ADVISE."
 
Pure Power said:
The dude selling the 2 G-22K's has a statement on his auction that reads:

"On Nov-16-05 at 14:00:24 PST, seller added the following information:

THIS IS NOT A DUTCH AUCTION,HIGH BIDDER GETS BOTH UNITS.THANKS FOR ALL THE EMAILS AND ADVISE.A WORKING G22000 IS WORTH OVER 1000.00.DONT WANT TO RELIST THEM AS 2 SALES NOW THAT THE AUCTION IS GOING ON.HOPE ALL THE WATCHERS SEE THIS UPDATE.THANKS AGAIN FOR ALL THE ADVISE."

Well, tell that to the eBay software that treats the incoming bids as if it was a multiple item auction, and then awards two winners. He'll end up with a lower selling price because it is the 3rd highest bid that sets the sale price for the two winners, not the 2nd highest bid. Or maybe I'm not understanding it right. All I know is I put a pair of speakers up and accidently used 'quantity 2' and ended up with two annoyed winners.
 
He's relisted it correctly. I just got a message from him saying so. I'm guessing anyone else who contacted him also got the word?

It's good he realized the mistake and hopefully this should keep it from being a total mess at auctions end.

Moot
 
In all honesty, I'm thinking about this one too. Mostly because I'm local to Madison. Will have to see how it goes.
 
Good grief!

That's AUDITECH, a gent who used to post here. One of those G-22000's is my old one, I swapped it to him for some Luxman gear. The power amp section of my old one is kinda rough, the connector mount tore away from the sheetmetal leaving the connector for the umbilical cord dangling. Ugly, but perfectly functional. Never did get around to fixing it...

I hope he's doing OK, looks like he's unloading some of his collection. Good guy to trade with...got my Polk 7B's from him.

Todd in Beerbratistan
 
Why is he so vague and indescriptive in his ad? He seemed utterly confused and oblivious to his previous auction type mistake. What's with just the one pic of the front with a tower of equipment piled on top of each other? With all that damage, would be nice to actually see what you would bid on. Looks like these might be considered a grade above parts-only units and he's trying to hide the fact.

Maybe if they were put behind a smoked glass enclosure or a closet they wouldn't be that bad........
 
wisconsin 22000s.....

IN WISCONSIN !!!! HERE Im gonna bid.... Hello, there is NO way Im gonna pass on this..... My wife is allready pissed because she knows ive got a bullseye on them now.... a lazer red dot baby.... :thmbsp: and within firing range from me..... , I agree with what ya said though, I cant believe how many are all the sudden they are popping up everywhere :banana: but without the BAY hardly any of us would know about them... I know alot of people bad mouth E BAY, BUT without them... we wouldnt even be talking about this...right? Thanks...Michael.... :guitar:
 
Fuzzy Lumpkins said:
He is really limiting how much he can get with the no Paypal and local pickup.

I wish Him luck.

Thats why I think I have a good chance...I have the $$ and he lives a half hour away :banana: Michael... Just adjusting them sights.... LOL
 
I really wonder if it's actually better to have two crappy, identical units rather than one decent looking set up. You can pick up a pretty nice G-22000 these days for around $1000. The last two cosmetic-deficient (but fully working) ones sold for around $700. One of these doesn't even work and the other probably has more serious issues than he's letting on. I wonder why he doesn't have pics of the rears, sides, or the other amp?

I suppose for the right price it would be worth it, but I wonder if the current condition and damages warrants much more than the beginning bid amount? What's a parts unit worth?
 
I do know that the one that works, while being somewhat rough cosmetically, does play quite well, I used it for several months before letting the current seller have it. I found it a bit sterile for my taste, but through the HPM-100's it could wrench your guts with no effort. IIRC the other 22K had a bad channel in the power amp, but the pre/tuna worked.

Should be enough here to make one good solid machine, and have parts left over to fix other 22K's.

Oh, MJ, if you nab this thing, PM me if ya want to grab a beer since you'll be in town more or less. :) (Same goes for any other AK'ers wandering into the Madtown area, btw :) )

Todd in Beerbratistan
 
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