Voice of music 1448

Tubeglowpio

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Just bought one of these online after reading a few good reviews, I'll post some pics when I restore it. I really need to locate a schematic so if anyone has one please link or pm me. If anyone has any info or insight on this amp let me know, they seem kind of rare.
 
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These are very nice amps and still one of the best bargains out there. I have a schematic but no way to scan it. Tom Bavis may have one scanned. It looks like there was never a Sams Photofact for it although they did have one for the 1428, which uses 6BQ5 outputs. The one I have is the factory schematic that I got from VM so check with them: https://www.thevoiceofmusic.com

Looks like the yours is very clean. The only downside of the 1448 compared to the 1428 is that it doesn't have a magnetic phono stage, only ceramic.
 
VofM, makes good sounding equipment and live up to their namesake. It is a fairly generic PP el84 amp with cathode bias. So just the usual rebuilding needs. About the worst thing is the tight grouping of the power tubes in the central location, kinda like a child's EZ Bake oven. Don't chuck the cheesy heat shields! I have mine in storage so i don't even remember when i last played it.
 
These are very nice amps and still one of the best bargains out there. I have a schematic but no way to scan it. Tom Bavis may have one scanned. It looks like there was never a Sams Photofact for it although they did have one for the 1428, which uses 6BQ5 outputs. The one I have is the factory schematic that I got from VM so check with them: https://www.thevoiceofmusic.com

Looks like the yours is very clean. The only downside of the 1448 compared to the 1428 is that it doesn't have a magnetic phono stage, only ceramic.
Yeah, I have wanted to get an eico for awhile but with the prices I figured this would be a good alternative and it does seem in pretty good shape, I see a little rust so maybe someone knows a good remedy for that. It is a bummer that it's for ceramic but I'm going to build a mm tube phono soon so it should be better and more quiet on a separate chassis.
 
VofM, makes good sounding equipment and live up to their namesake. It is a fairly generic PP el84 amp with cathode bias. So just the usual rebuilding needs. About the worst thing is the tight grouping of the power tubes in the central location, kinda like a child's EZ Bake oven. Don't chuck the cheesy heat shields! I have mine in storage so i don't even remember when i last played it.
This one runs 6aq5 so I thought that was cool plus they are cheaper than 6bq5. Picked up a matched quad of RCA black plates to go along with it. It will get looked over, recapped, resistors checked, replaced diode with uf4007, I need to look into the tone o matic, I guess it may have a couplet.
 
VofM, makes good sounding equipment and live up to their namesake. It is a fairly generic PP el84 amp with cathode bias. So just the usual rebuilding needs. About the worst thing is the tight grouping of the power tubes in the central location, kinda like a child's EZ Bake oven. Don't chuck the cheesy heat shields! I have mine in storage so i don't even remember when i last played it.
I'm obsessive with my temp gun whenever I first restore or build an amp so I'll make sure it doesn't get crazy hot, if so I'll have a small fan blowing.
 
The fan is an excellent idea. I don't know how hot it gets in that little space so it would be interesting to see what kind of readings you get from the temp gun.
 
This one runs 6aq5 so I thought that was cool plus they are cheaper than 6bq5. Picked up a matched quad of RCA black plates to go along with it. It will get looked over, recapped, resistors checked, replaced diode with uf4007, I need to look into the tone o matic, I guess it may have a couplet.
You should also be on the look out for the 6094 tube by bendix. It is built for aeronautical use and is ridiculously over engineered. You can sometimes run across them for pretty cheap.
 
You should also be on the look out for the 6094 tube by bendix. It is built for aeronautical use and is ridiculously over engineered. You can sometimes run across them for pretty cheap.
I will be looking for those, this thing also runs some 6eu7s which I have plenty of so won't be rewiring those. Sounds like you have a pile of amps collecting dust primo, somehow I already have about 10 amps and a few radios from just the last 6 years or so. If I keep this up I'll have about 100 by the time I retire.
 
I will be looking for those, this thing also runs some 6eu7s which I have plenty of so won't be rewiring those. Sounds like you have a pile of amps collecting dust primo, somehow I already have about 10 amps and a few radios from just the last 6 years or so. If I keep this up I'll have about 100 by the time I retire.
Let us just say there was a period where i put my 'inheritance' into tubes and tube amps. Luckily, it was about 30 years ago, when you could get them for pretty good price.
 
I'm obsessive with my temp gun whenever I first restore or build an amp so I'll make sure it doesn't get crazy hot, if so I'll have a small fan blowing.

The 6AQ5s don't run nearly as hot as the 6BQ5s. The 1428s usually have a toasted brown area on the case above the 6BQ5s. If you see one without that it just means it wasn't used much. The 1448s never seem to have that issue so I don't think you need to worry about temps.

This one runs 6aq5 so I thought that was cool plus they are cheaper than 6bq5. Picked up a matched quad of RCA black plates to go along with it. It will get looked over, recapped, resistors checked, replaced diode with uf4007, I need to look into the tone o matic, I guess it may have a couplet.

The Tone-O-Matic circuit is built into a PEC, maybe that's what you mean by 'couplet'. Here's a recent thread about a 1428 in which I discuss the PEC and the way I approach the tone control controls on the VMs. It also has some links to the schematic of the PEC which I drew out for Larry (idadude) and posted on AA. He built the circuit using discreet parts and used it to replace the original PEC which was out of spec and causing issues. http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/in...ube-amp-virgin-v-m-1428.816064/#post-11462181

Looks like the 6094 is a el84 sub? Not 6aq5?

The 6005 is a heavy duty equivalent for the 6AQ5. Both are still plentiful and relatively cheap. There is also a Russian version but I've never tried it.
 
No, it is a 6aq5 sub. You can also use the industrial type 6005 which is way cheaper than the Bendix.

Well, despite the reference on the Bendix data sheet to it being the equivalent of the "generic 6AQ5 / 6005" the 6094 is a 9 pin tube while the 6AQ5 is a 7 pin. The dealer near me charges $5 for the 6AQ5 / 6005 and $30 for the 6094. Those things are built like tanks.

6094: https://tubedata.altanatubes.com.br/sheets/131/6/6094.pdf
https://tubedata.altanatubes.com.br/sheets/127/6/6094.pdf
6AQ5: https://tubedata.altanatubes.com.br/sheets/093/6/6AQ5.pdf
 
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Looks like the 6094 is a el84 sub? Not 6aq5?
Sorry, about the bum steer with the 6094, it is not a direct sub as FC pointed out. At least i got the 6005 correct. I hope you did not buy a thousand dollars worth of Bendix 6094 in the meanwhile!
 
The 6AQ5s don't run nearly as hot as the 6BQ5s. The 1428s usually have a toasted brown area on the case above the 6BQ5s. If you see one without that it just means it wasn't used much. The 1448s never seem to have that issue so I don't think you need to worry about temps.



The Tone-O-Matic circuit is built into a PEC, maybe that's what you mean by 'couplet'. Here's a recent thread about a 1428 in which I discuss the PEC and the way I approach the tone control controls on the VMs. It also has some links to the schematic of the PEC which I drew out for Larry (idadude) and posted on AA. He built the circuit using discreet parts and used it to replace the original PEC which was out of spec and causing issues. http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/in...ube-amp-virgin-v-m-1428.816064/#post-11462181



The 6005 is a heavy duty equivalent for the 6AQ5. Both are still plentiful and relatively cheap. There is also a Russian version but I've never tried it.
I looked around and figured primo meant the 6005, nice post about the tune o matic, yes that is what I meant is there a difference? I very well might being doing that well I'm at it. Hopefully I can get the schematic because it's not original, someone has changed a few filter caps so who knows what else could have been touched. I'm ready to hear this thing and compare it to some other tube gear. Btw happy 4th to everyone!
 
Sorry, about the bum steer with the 6094, it is not a direct sub as FC pointed out. At least i got the 6005 correct. I hope you did not buy a thousand dollars worth of Bendix 6094 in the meanwhile!
It's all good, I figured out what you meant. Lol well if I did drop some money on the 6094 at least I could use them in one of my other amps lol they are pricey though.
 
I'm fascinated by this little amp. What's the complete tube complement? Is it all 6aq5s, or are there some 12ax7s in there with tube guards?
 
I'm fascinated by this little amp. What's the complete tube complement? Is it all 6aq5s, or are there some 12ax7s in there with tube guards?
The 6AQ5s are output tubes. The amp is push-pull, so there are four 6AQ5s, two for each channel. There are also three 6EU7s which serve as input and phase inverter tubes.

These are great little amps as long as you don't need an input for a modern turntable. Their phono input is for use with a ceramic cartridge only. If you need a magnetic phono input, the 1428, which uses 6BQ5 output tubes, has one.

There is no Sams for the 1448 but here's the factory schematic in two parts.
VM1448-1.jpg
VM1448-2.jpg
 
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