What are Pioneer's Best CD Players?

Hi!
Don't want to open new theread so if anyone can help - there are 2 players I can get, but don't know what to choose: PD 7770 or PD-S502
Any suggestions?
Thanks!
 
restorer-john said:
I like the PD7100 and PD7300 (AU$699 when new) machines and they can be had quite cheaply if you hunt around. The PD7100 (AU$799 when new) was the top model below the PD71 with the PD91 above that. The PD71 would be a good choice find if you can locate one.

The stable platter ones are ok, but they'd moved to single bit by then and they never impressed me much, letalone their stupid legato-link fiasco units- steer clear of them. If you went with a stable platter, find a PD8700 or PD7700- they were the best of the middle range units.

The PD7100 and PD7300 use Burr Brown 16 and 18 bit converters, respectively, have high speed linear motors for tracking, weigh in at 6.3kg and have a FET class A output buffer stage- they sound good and test very well.

Their spindle motors however, often fail, causing people to dispose of them. New spindle motors are cheap and a very easy fix. The symptoms are static-like sound and a long time to read a disc. People think it's the laser, but it's not.

From the top down for me it would be:
PD91
PD71
PD75
PD7300
PD7100
then everything else.
P-D70 doesn't rate in my book. It's a mess inside but it is invaluable for Pioneer silver collectors to get that all silver look.
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Hi John, 7 years on just putting together a bit of old vintage Pioneer stuff to go with my 1980 SA508 & A656 mk2, CTF600 tape deck etc now that Pioneer has ceased to be (sob) & got a PD7300 & remote manual etc in good nick for just over 200 Euro on your recommendation. It'll be interesting to see how it compares to my Denon dcd600 NE. It certainly compares on spec - not bad for something 30 yearsold! I see other posters saying no laser p ups for these but there are several suppliers in spain & aliexpress - alrhough from what you say it's the motors that may eventually play up. Got a 1 yr gtee anyway - so hopefully no probs too soon! Thanks for the info.
 
Well I'll add to this... the 7300 arrived Tuesday & went to the gate to gind the DHL bloke standing it on its end.... ignoring the large arrows saying this way up.... typical. Got it inside & it had been expertly & carefully packed remote & full manual & near mint. Tried a CD - nothing. Messaged the guy on Ebay & he was unusually quite happy for me to open it up. What's that rattle? The lens of course... bloody postal services... Luckily after a gentle clean I was able to re insert it & it now works faultlessly just as the seller assured me he had checked before posting. The sound via the Burr Brown onboard dac is very detailed & soundstage excellent, transients & panning/instrument placement crystal clear - in fact I'm sure I can tell Nina of the Cardigans is singing at an angle into her mike on some tracks of "Life" - it's that well defined. Bass is very dynamic on heavy rock too. Gotta keep my Denon though as it doesn't read CDRWs. CDRs are fine though.
A good 219€ if ever I spent it.
Thanks for this thread gents - my Pioneer collection-on-a-shoestring has been improved no end! ; )
 
H.Lo said:
Hi!
Don't want to open new theread so if anyone can help - there are 2 players I can get, but don't know what to choose: PD 7770 or PD-S502
Any suggestions?
Thanks!
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Hi did you mean 7700? If so then HiFi engine rates the S-502 dac as slightly better - tiny difference in distortion & seems to have a good reliability reputation but I've never heard or know of other details I'm afraid.
Good luck! ; )
 
H.Lo said:
Hi!
Don't want to open new theread so if anyone can help - there are 2 players I can get, but don't know what to choose: PD 7770 or PD-S502
Any suggestions?
Thanks!
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Hang on read back from the beginning of this thread & you'll see Restorer John - whose opinion on the 7300 I can vouch for says the PD7700 was one of the best of the medium range - depends if you intend using the onboard dac or as a transport I suppose... weighed against the validity of the review on HiFi engine....
 
My CTF600 tape deck belt replacement....
Well took off the cover, dropped off the motor with the aid of a stubby screwdriver & that allowed me to replace the top belt. Couldn't get the Capstan belt off though without a full stripdown so I tried a "bottler's" solution by cleaning the accessible pulley wheels with an alcohol damped cotton bud as they spun around. Success! The initial slipping of the Capstan belt on start up ceased & a spray of wd40 specilaist vontact cleaner solved the crackle on the recording pots! I know when I'm ahead so bunged it back together & apart from no rewind(who cares) it's all good! Whether the capstan belt was slipping & the alc tightened it up I don't know but for now it's a fix!! Phew. I can out that Yamaha deck away now.
 
Reviving this thread once again... Does anyone have any information on the PD-59? I found one that has been completely recapped for a great price and I'm thinking of making an offer. The vast majority of the decks discussed in this thread are either unavailable in the US at the moment or the asking price is beyond my price range, which is about $300.00, shipped.

Are the newer Pioneer CDPs any good - such as the PD-10AE?

Thanks.

EDIT: I just placed a low-ball offer on a Sony CDP-620ES II and the seller accepted. Still eyeballing' that PD-10AE, though.
 
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restorer-john said:
I like the PD7100 and PD7300 (AU$699 when new) machines and they can be had quite cheaply if you hunt around. The PD7100 (AU$799 when new) was the top model below the PD71 with the PD91 above that. The PD71 would be a good choice find if you can locate one.

The stable platter ones are ok, but they'd moved to single bit by then and they never impressed me much, letalone their stupid legato-link fiasco units- steer clear of them. If you went with a stable platter, find a PD8700 or PD7700- they were the best of the middle range units.

The PD7100 and PD7300 use Burr Brown 16 and 18 bit converters, respectively, have high speed linear motors for tracking, weigh in at 6.3kg and have a FET class A output buffer stage- they sound good and test very well.

Their spindle motors however, often fail, causing people to dispose of them. New spindle motors are cheap and a very easy fix. The symptoms are static-like sound and a long time to read a disc. People think it's the laser, but it's not.

From the top down for me it would be:
PD91
PD71
PD75
PD7300
PD7100
then everything else.
P-D70 doesn't rate in my book. It's a mess inside but it is invaluable for Pioneer silver collectors to get that all silver look.
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Hi where can I buy a pd-7100 SPINDLE MOTOR THX OLIVER
 
oliffers said:
Hi where can I buy a pd-7100 SPINDLE MOTOR THX OLIVER
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The motor is Pioneer part number PXM-1001/ PEA-1233. Plenty on eBay. 2mm shaft diameter. It's a 5.9V common spindle motor- all you have to do is match the shaft length.

The original in 1987 was likely Matsushita manufactured, MDN-4RA2MYBS or later, a Mabuchi RF320CH-10570.

You must set the table height as per the service manual. Pioneer helpfully put a table height jig in the mech moulding that you snap out, place around the collar, support the motor and press the table down. You should also consider focus offset adjustment, but you can probably get away without that if you install it as per the diagram below.

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