Where do younger collectors find their HiFi audio gear these days ?

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Maybe, this is an appropriate question, maybe not...

Very vintage collectors, now in our "middle aged" or even "senior" status will remember home HiFi stereo stores, TV-Radio and electronic surplus parts establishments, even small and large record stores, in every city and many nearby towns across the USA...

With the new millenium came sometimes comfortable, online vendors, as well as the "wild west" online, while so-called "brick and mortar" stores became unaffordable for their owners to keep open. Mail order declined as post office rates increase every January. Mail order is still around, certainly, but having a pair of speakers or amplifiers or a turntable sent cross-country via the delivery services is both costly and risky.

So, seriously, thinking about newcomers or younger fans becoming interested in this hobby, finding NOS tubes, transistors and electronic parts or electronic gear can be quickly seen as difficult and/or expensive. Forums are very helpful, as we have many more experienced posters "willing to share the knowledge to share the wealth of enjoyment" this hobby/obsession offers. Combine this fact with the fact that many older hobbyists have collected way back when, when our pocket money bought some very cool gear at affordable prices. Furthermore, within our middle-aged mindset, many of us might actually be motivated to reduce our collections.

You can meet us online, within the forums, at antique radio clubs, flea markets, swap meets, ham radio (amateur radio) hamfests, estate sales and auctions. These days, the many "disciplines" of audio folks, including but not limited to sound engineers, studio personnel, performers, musicians, radio collectors, record collectors and hifi enthusiasts overlap as never before. While I know that the same moving-coil step-up transformers I might desire are also needed by experienced sound studio engineers for their microphone amp stages, younger enthusiasts and engineers may not be as aware. Likewise, while hamfests and antique radio shows often had all the old parts we might have needed, their actual attendance seems to be lower than in previous years. Thus, my original question is in order...Where are the younger folks sourcing the vintage goods ?
 
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There are 2 B&M stores in the Denver area that deal primarily with vintage equipment. One also sells some new equipment (can't remember what), and the other also sells "newer" used equipment, and has an in house repair shop.
 
Outside of thrift stores (I frequently visit but majority of the time is all disposable AVR junk), fortunately where I live in Seattle there are two hi-fi shops that sell vintage gear, Hawthorne Stereo and Turntables and Trails.

Hawthorne’s big “used room” fascinates me every time I visit, which sparked my interest in vintage gear in the first place.
 
Well I am doing my bit, every foster kid that comes through the house gets a vintage system.......I am up to 5 kids now all fully converted with a cult like addiction. They've all been boys and they have all loved pulling things apart and putting new systems together, tweaking to see if they/we can hear a difference.

Once settled and converted into vintage audio zombies they get reasonable budget to buy a system.....it generates a lot of discussion, research and debate at our house. I am constantly getting an ipad shoved under my nose followed by "what about this?" or research with "did you know......?" One kid did particularly well I thought; AR94 speakers, Kenwood KA3500 (I paid extra for a restoration), Sony CDP 315, a Technics SL23 with a Ortofon 10 cartridge and choice of any of my cables which were constantly swapped in and out.

Then comes the nagging for records and cd's. Finally, at the end of it all they'll tell ya they know more about audio than I do :naughty: phiff.

Rob :)
 
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All my gear is 2nd hand apart from my speakers and even they are 'ex-display'. My system all new would have cost me around £2k. By sourcing 2nd hand gear I managed to get the whole system for just under £900. I used ebay, Facebook marketplace and Amazon warehouse 'used' section.
All the gear was in 'near new' condition! I think by going 2nd hand it enables you to afford a system that would otherwise be out of your reach!
 
I do pretty well sourcing my gear from bins.

But to answer your question, online, which is where I sell it all. B&M stores will continue to disappear, I buy absolutely everything online as do most people my age (mid 20's)
 
Vintage is not a factor, nor should it be. But if I'm looking for setting second hand then I am searching for that brand on the for-sale apps like Offer-up, or Craigslist. While Facebook Marketplace would, at times, have some interesting offerings, I left Facebook all together because it's such a toxic environment.
 
Here's how I put together my collection.

1. Troll CL constantly and try to be the first to reply. Be courteous and tell them you can meet right away.
2. Swap meets are great but you have to be on dawn patrol to score. Be there at zero dark when the sellers arrive. Most stuff never hits the ground and is sold off the trucks.
3. Garage sales and estate sales are very hit and miss. You have to get lucky.
4. Buy anything that is below ebay and start flipping. Amass audio dollars and buy what you really want at market price.

You will read a lot of great score stories here but do not be tempted into thinking, "why can't I get lucky?" It takes a lot of hard work to put yourself into position to get great deals.
 
Most younger people interested in hi-fi seem to have no problem finding it one way or the other.

A store I frequent in San Diego has the usual spread of AR, D'ag, Bergmann, Wilson, etc. but also sell more affordable brands like the new Technics lineup as well as a few others. They mentioned that they get a lot of foot traffic and buys from younger people with the lower cost offerings.

If going mail order, almost all online stores have a generous return policy if you don't like what you buy.

If they choose to go used, in my area at least, using Craigslist or Facebook Marketplace someone can put together a monster of a high end system in no time flat, spending as much money as they care to. This is location dependent of course. If you don't live in a decently sized metro area you're going to have to cast the net a lot wider and be prepared to take a road trip to pick up your used Sound Labs or whatever else tickles your fancy.
Same with vintage. I have no problem finding even oddball stuff if I wait a while. That said I recommend new or lightly used to the friends I've introduced to the hobby as a constantly cranky amp or pre in need of restoration can be a good source of frustration to someone who just wants to listen to music.
 
Personally, I've gotten stuff from eBay, FB Marketplace, CL, LetGo, estate sales, yard sales, thrifts. As well as other collectors/enthusiasts, young and old.

I don't usually hit up pawn shops, kind of spendy around here.
 
I'm 31. I buy mostly on Craigslist, some on AK, and a little on eBay. I service and fix my own gear mostly, so that helps open up my options. I do sell to younger folks on Craigslist pretty often.
 
Maybe younger folks arent totally focused on vintage. Maybe they buy audio gear that fits their lifestyle?

Maybe just maybe they do audio in their own way and buy it in their own style.

Cheers
Mister Pig

Not sure if I fit into the category or not as I hit 40 in November which is technically middle-aged.

That said absolutely 100% of my audio purchase ls have been online, in the following order.

eBay
AliExpress
Stereonet Classifieds
Gumtree
Online stores or direct with the vendor

There is very little by way of decent used gear in Brisbane with most being in the less sunny states like Victoria or New South Wales and most private sellers will only sell local which I completely understand as I'm the same.

This leads me to source quite a lot of gear from China and mod it, or vintage gear or parts from Japan, the US or the UK. The majority of my gear however is new and modded by me to my sonic preferences.

My latest speakers for example were built by me, though use vintage alnico Zenith and Magnavox drivers from the states. My Muji Studio DAC II uses old Philips TDA1541 chips though is a new product.... I've some vintage tonearms, turntables, cartridges and SUT though. I only run vintage where it actually performs better than new for a given cost and here in Australia the costs are different to the US.

That said, the Australian dollar is shot right now so I won't be spending anything further until it's recovered as everything is roughly 50% more than it used to be.
 
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Outside of thrift stores (I frequently visit but majority of the time is all disposable AVR junk), fortunately where I live in Seattle there are two hi-fi shops that sell vintage gear, Hawthorne Stereo and Turntables and Trails.

Hawthorne’s big “used room” fascinates me every time I visit, which sparked my interest in vintage gear in the first place.
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