Why vinyl is better

[DeadRock]

it's more like..."I use slang to be accepted in a group that would otherwise have nothing to do with me"

Hmmmm...I suppose...

 

[malden]

Me too...and agreed. On my system, Lps sound better...

How is it that your system is better suited to records?

 

[DeadRock]

How is it that your system is better suited to records?

Because I have a better quality vinyl playback chain as compared to cd...it's not complicated at all...

 

[GChief]

it's more like..."I use slang to be accepted in a group that would otherwise have nothing to do with me"

I often use slang becasue it makes some peoples eye twitch like ole'boy in the Pink Panther movies.

 

[nailer]

...it's probably a clutch issue...

Yup. Sort of like a cognitive dissonance clutch that comes into play when I look at all the audio toys I have that aren't being used and start to wonder why I have them.

 

[GChief]

Yup. Sort of like a cognitive dissonance clutch that comes into play when I look at all the audio toys I have that aren't being used and start to wonder why I have them.

Give to some young hipsters to get them started on this journey. I did that with everything I had after setting up my daughters.

 

[malden]

Because I have a better quality vinyl playback chain as compared to cd...it's not complicated at all...

CD is less complicated than vinyl playback. If both sources are running through the same preamp, amp, speakers, the only variable is the CD player (setting aside the quality of a particular recording on CD). For it to sound worse than the turntable, the CD player must be pretty crappy.

 

[DeadRock]

CD is less complicated than vinyl playback. If both sources are running through the same preamp, amp, speakers, the only variable is the CD player (setting aside the quality of a particular recording on CD). For it to sound worse than the turntable, the CD player must be pretty crappy.

That would or could be one speculation...it is both underinformed (you have no clues as to my system)...and wildly reductive...but...you go!

 

[malden]

That would or could be one speculation...it is both underinformed (you have no clues as to my system)...and wildly reductive...but...you go!

under-informed, yes, but that is based on the information you provided

 

[DeadRock]

under-informed, yes, but that is based on the information you provided

So...your conclusion (I use the word loosely) is an overreach...weak logically and rhetorically...

 

[malden]

So...your conclusion (I use the word loosely) is an overreach...weak logically and rhetorically...

Yes, my conclusion is that you did not provide us with enough information regarding your statement that in your particular system, vinyls sound good'r

 

[DeadRock]

Yes, my conclusion is that you did not provide us with enough information regarding your statement that in your particular system, vinyls sound good'r

Why is that remotely important? If I tell you I have X Y Z & B in my vinyl chain, and C & D in my cd chain, would you be less or more inclined to keep digging your opinion hole?

 

[Bodyblue]

And so the butthurt begins........a bit late but yet it always appears.

 

[jsisk]

Here is the problem with this whole Vinyl vs CD debate. For me to do a comparison using my main system and current record and CD collection it is impossible to make a true comparison.

Let's try some Led Zeppelin.

First, for the vinyl record I have to decide which one to use. Should I use the George Piros mastered record I bought in the 70's that is still in mint condition or should I use the 180 gram remastered copy I bought several years ago? The sound is very different between these two. So right out of the gate we have to decide which of these is the better version. My guess is that this alone would muddy the waters since there are countless people that swear the GP master is the best, while others prefer the brighter sounding remastered album.

Next, which cartridge and stylus should I use? My choices are a Shure V15 type IV with either a JICO stylus or pull out my last OEM Shure stylus, or I can use a Shure 97XE with Shure stylus. Each of these have a slightly different sound.

(that's six possible configurations so far)

Next, I have to choose between the two CDs I own. One is the original release from the mid 80's. (spoiler alert: this one is not very good) The other is from the remastered Complete Studio Recordings that was produced by Jimmy Page.

Then I have to choose a CD player and path. My choices are either my Yamaha CD-2 analog out which uses one of the first BurrBrown DACs and was once rated as the closest to vinyl sound signature as you could get. Or should I use my newly purchased Onkyo C-7030? If I use the Onkyo, should I use the analog out since it has a pretty decent Wolfson DAC? Or should I use the COAX out and run it through my DAC, which has a more current BurrBrown chip than the Yamaha?

That's another six possible configurations, and a total of 36 possible side by side comparisons. That is just in my house on my main system. Or should I do it on my office system since it is all Technics and only has one option for CD and cartridge?

Now think of how many millions of possible combinations there are out in the world.

I have hundreds of albums that I own both on vinyl and CD and many of them I have multiple version of. I can setup a blind test that will make the vinyl record win, or I can setup a comparison that will make the CD sound better.

Just because a certain version of an album on CD sounds better to you than a certain version on vinyl, doesn't mean all CDs are better than all Vinyl Records. It just means that you prefer the CD when those specific samples are compared on your specific equipment configuration.

There are 786 different versions of Led Zeppelin's first album. (between CD, Vinyl, and tape) Which two do you even pick for your comparison?

 

[DeadRock]

And so the butthurt begins........a bit late but yet it always appears.

Illuminate please...If you're referring to me you'd be way wrong...I don't over personalize...and more importantly...I care not what most people claim to think or believe when it comes to audio...if only they could express themselves more clearly...but I digress...

 

[jayvis]

I often use slang becasue it makes some peoples eye twitch like ole'boy in the Pink Panther movies.

When you said that, this guy popped into my mind. I love old westerns.

 

[jsisk]

I listen to both records and CD's. I like them both equally.

I avoid reissues of 1970's classic rock records on CD that were manufactured in the 1980's. I have about a dozen or so and compared to the original issue on vinyl, the CD versions really suck.

I agree with the statement about the early CD issues. I can't count how many I bought back then only to sell them a day or two later. Many, I later replaced with Japanese and German imports or decades later with remastered versions. There were some gems in the early days, but also a lot of crap. There was a place in San Diego that bought and sold used CDs and sometimes it seemed like I was there to sell rejects more than I was at Wherehouse Records and Tower Records buying them.

 

[Mister Pig]

and when online posters started calling cartridges "carts" and records "vinyls", my butt started to hurt......

 

[Bodyblue]

I dug around and found this again.......a balanced and smart post that smacks both sides on the back of the head.

Subjective vs Objective Debate

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[nailer]

Give to some young hipsters to get them started on this journey. I did that with everything I had after setting up my daughters.

Or Goodwill.