Why won't it stop skipping!??

[pioneervato]

Actually, some do, otherwise the stub you refer to would be a solid piece and an extension of the tonearm. But I am not familiar with his specific tt so maybe not.

Either way, it has to go back on as it is needed to carry the counterweight.

To the OP, spend some time looking at pics of TT's here in the TT forum and you should quickly get an idea on how most TT's are supposed to look when all components are attached properly. Lots of info here but you will need to spend some time reading but if you are really interested in listening to vinyl it would certainly be worth your while.

 

[Tarl Of Gor]

And possibly a different turntable. This one might be a lost cause.

 

[spartus]

Whoa hold up, the stub is not suppose to come off like that, actually it is not suppose to come off at all.........

Jonh

Edit: put the stub back in place and tighten that screw, so that the stub doesn't come off or wobble .

Ahhh!! Yes sir! *fixes it immediately*

So... I had no idea it was missing a part... and I can't find a replacement counterweight. I will now attempt to jury rig my own. Is this possible or will I just end up completely wrecking everything? :scratch2:

If this doesn't work, I will probably just spring for a new turntable altogether as this is just incredibly too complicated to wrap my little novice mind around. :tears:

 

[Zodia]

The tricky part of rigging your own CW is the ability to read the tracking force, and this wil require the use of a VTF Gauge.
http://www.google.com/products/cata...og_result&ct=result&resnum=3&ved=0CDMQ8wIwAg# ,
there are cheaper digital ones but I don't know where....sorry, I'm sure someone will lead you in the right direction.

Jonh

Edit, here's a crazy idea, I read somewhere, that someone used AA batteries to rig a CW, try that.
HINT: look at the cantilever when you set the tonearm down if it goes to far in to the cart pull the makeshift CW back and try again, you should be able to see the cantilever give way a little, so if it doesn't move to little weight, it the cart bottoms out too much weight.
I'd still get the tracking force gauge though.

 

[classic carl]

Spartus, where are you located? There might be another AK'er in your town that could help you out. There are many TT owners on AK that would be more than willing to help you. It's a lot easier in person that on a forum like this. Once you know how to balance and set up a turntable, you'll find it's not that hard. You just need to see it done once. However, with that table, you'd need a CW to set it up properly.

 

[Zodia]

Spartus, where are you located? There might be another AK'er in your town that could help you out. There are many TT owners on AK that would be more than willing to help you. It's a lot easier in person that on a forum like this. Once you know how to balance and set up a turntable, you'll find it's not that hard. You just need to see it done once.

Good call.


Oh yeah where are my manners, Spartus Welcome to AK.

 

[pioneervato]

Spartus, where are you located? There might be another AK'er in your town that could help you out. There are many TT owners on AK that would be more than willing to help you. It's a lot easier in person that on a forum like this. Once you know how to balance and set up a turntable, you'll find it's not that hard. You just need to see it done once.

Good suggestion. Lots of good folks on AK that are willing to lend a helping hand. Setting up a tt properly makes a huge difference in sound performance.

Good luck and I would certainly search your area for a TT that is complete. Your local thrifts, Craigs List, etc. is a good place to start.

 

[spartus]

So, I just got done attempting my jury rigged counterweight and it WORKED.

It actually worked. I can't believe it. I've been able to listen to several songs so far without the darn thing skipping or warbling or dragging at all! Sounds good through the speakers too. (though I'm not really all that picky) I'm so happy and I never would have figured it out because I had no idea anything was even missing.

Thanks for the welcome and thanks so much for your help everyone! :lmao:

 

[Nat]

The stub coming off isn't a big deal -- just dab a bit of glue on it and push it back on, but make sure the inscribed line is at the top, dead center. The reason for the glue and the alignment is that when you find a counterweight, you set the tracking force by turning the counterweight, and if the stub isn't glued, the stub might turn also. The line needs to be on the top just because its easy to see in that position -- its just a reference point.
I think your problem with skipping is a result of the lack of a counterweight -- the whole weight of the arm is now mashing then new cartridge down on the record, so far that the arm catches on the cuing platform.
You can fake a counterweight for the moment using a stack of washers with big enough holes to fit over the stub, and some tape. You will need some way to set tracking force though, and unless you have access to a small scale, you may have difficulty doing that.
If I were you, I'd post your general location and see if there is a local AKer who could come and help.

 

[Zodia]

You're welcome, I'd still try to find a suitable CW for it though, measure the diameter of the stub you just attached and search evilbay, if you find a CW contact the seller and ask him to what is the diameter of the bore on the CW he is selling.

Jonh

 

[spartus]

Thanks for the tip. I will continue to scour ebay for a counterweight, especially since my fake one looks ridiculous... but I am very happy that it works in the meantime!

 

[Balifly]

Welcome to the AK turntable forum.

Howard had suggested the use of a stack metal washers as a temporary measure.

The are inexpensive.

You start with a few and add more till you have reached the proper weight.

If you are lucky, the center hole is approximately the same size as the tone arm stub.

A bit of alteration made be necessary.

You can wrap the stack of washers with tape to keep them together when you are done.

Hope this helps!

 

[Zodia]

That works too.

 

[HTHMAN]

Thanks! So, you think that once I get the counterweight, it will work properly?

Is there anything I can use in place of an actual counterweight?

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If you pick up an inexpensive stylus scale, you could tape some weight to that stub until the stylus force measures in the 2-3 Gm range. Then set the anti-skating to the same value as measured since you have a conical stylus. You could at least see if it is worth investing more money in it.

 

[dnpainting]

Hi Spartus, I have a counterweight, brand new with a 9mm hole with a lockdown screw you are welcome too. It came off a Stanton TT. Do you know what size your stub is? You will also need a tracking force scale to set it properly. PM me if you are able to use it.

EDIT: The Weight of the Counterweight is 3oz and is a 30mm O.D. Here are some pix