Wood Glue as Vinyl Cleaner

So what's the verdict of using Ailenes Original Tacky Glue for this purpose? That's all I happen to have in stock now, and just received two used LPs in the mail to maybe try it on. Also has anyone tried spot treatment? These two records play very clean except the lead-in and maybe a minute into the first cuts. Likely because of people handling the records at the edge pinched between their fingers, and the residual oil attracting dirt in those places.
 
Well, the Titebond II glue is almost dry on my old, very dirty, "The Best of The James Gang" album. I'll let you all know how it comes out. I'm looking forward to hearing "The Bomber" cut. To hear it without pops and crackles would be a real pleasure.
 
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Well, it sounds much better. On the other hand, scratches that are on the record will still remain. I like this method for cleaning really dirty records, dirty records that my normal method of using a brush to clean won't touch.
 
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I'm trying it on one of my many copies of Gilbert O'Sullivan - Alone Again(Naturally) that I managed to acquire over the years (its a 45). the picture and glare makes the glue look a lot thicker than it actually is. hopefully, the glue will remove a large amount of some unidentifiable rust-colored stain i cant seem to get out with other methods.

Im trying it with an Elmer's-brand wood glue. lets see if it works.

 
I hope it's better than the picture looks! It's really best when the glue is applied at a uniform thickness, otherwise you wait forever for the thick spots to dry. I find that the right thickness is when it's just thick enough to be opaque or even a little less than that. Your translucent spots on the left side of the disc seem to be about right, the very thin section near the runout groove at the top of the picture might be hard to peel. Neatness counts! You'll get better as you practice on more discs. I never did a 45, the small size is probably a lot harder to work with.
 
Hey all,

Wondering if anyone has tried this on colored vinyl. Wondering if it'd have any negative side affects or if it would act the same?

Thanks,
Bryan
 
Bryan R said:
Hey all,

Wondering if anyone has tried this on colored vinyl. Wondering if it'd have any negative side affects or if it would act the same?

Thanks,
Bryan
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Can't say; is the colored record vinyl? if not probably not. It works on vinyl because the glue in question does not bond to the vinyl.
 
Bryan R said:
Darn... Cuz I really don't know what the material is, haha.
Research time!
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If it's an LP you really shouldn't have any problems. There's no black transference with regular LPs, so I wouldn't expect transference just because it was yellow, red or pictured. What's the label? When was it pressed?
No, no on 78's.
- Mario
 
Quite a few months ago I received a "Freebie" LP, Peter Gabriel 4, with one I purchased. It was so dirty I wouldn't chance my stylus to try it.

I glued it last week and got it on the turntable tonight. There are a few scratches but it sounds good. The glue performed a miracle on this one. Sadly it didn't on an old DJ copy of Bruebeck in Europe.
 
Mopic5 said:
If it's an LP you really shouldn't have any problems. There's no black transference with regular LPs, so I wouldn't expect transference just because it was yellow, red or pictured. What's the label? When was it pressed?
No, no on 78's.
- Mario
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What is "transference "?

Not neccessarally OK unless he knows it is vinyl, If an LP is other than black, it might not be. (45's are often styrene, not vinyl)
 
Transference is another name for the leeching of one compound to another. With any chemical that comes in contact with polyvinyl there's always the question whether it will promote the leeching of part of the poly chain to the compound.
Some old polybag liners have this kind of transference - sometimes called polybag "ghosting". While this leeching is permanent, in most cases the transfer is faint and deposited to the the tops of the groove walls and doesn't have a sonic penalty.
While I understand that some 45s are polystyrene, I'm not aware of any LPs (long-playing) that are anything other than polyvinyl. I've been glueing mono vinyl from the 50s without a problem.
And why should only colored vinyl send up this particular "red flag"? If there is a question about the composition of "some" LPs shouldn't we also be worried about renegade black compositions as well? That's why I asked the O.P. for the label and pressing.
I suppose that if there's a fear that an LP is not polyvinyl, one could pick a spot inside the the ring groove of the run-out, put a drop of PVA glue down and make sure it comes off without a hitch or transference.
 
Nearly every definition I found on transference had reference to psychoanalysis :D, none were for chemical transference. I wasn't concerned about transference for other materials, but for the glue permanently bonding to the record.

As to another color raising a red flag, why wouldn’t it? I have a couple of picture records that I’m certain are not vinyl, and the non black records I own don’t have the same “surface finish” as the regular back LP’s do, and I don’t believe them to be vinyl.
 
SaSi said:
. . . using a stiff paintbrush to create a very thin layer at first.
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I've been out of this thread for a while and decided to check back in. Ya'll have been busy.

SaSi, I like the idea of using a paintbrush to spread the glue. I didn't have a brush, so I used one of those cheap foam rubber paint applicators. That is sooooo much easier than using a plastic card.
 
Just wanted to say that I tried this method for the first time last night using some Titebond II (Good stuff!)...
Add me to the list of successful and happy gluers! :banana:

My 25 cent copy of Fleetwood Mac's "Rumours" sounds fantastic! Such a steal! :D

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Okay, so back to the colored vinyl thing.
The colored vinyl I own are all new pressings, within the last couple of years from new bands. I have a marbled pink record I'd like to glue, as well as a solid ivory colored record.

The "labels" are little "nobody labels" that I doubt anyone has heard of.
The pink one is by a band called Saxon Shore on the Burnt Toast Vinyl label, I think the pressing was made by Pirates Press perhaps... BTV might press their own I don't know. :sigh:

And the ivory record (Matthew Robert Cooper of Eluvium) is on the Gaarden label. Can't tell ya who pressed it... *shrug* It just seems pretty dirty/noisy, I know it's dirt, too, because it built up on the stylus. I think it'd benefit from a good gluing. :)
 
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