Yamaha Equalizer GE-40, Big Difference

NJguy

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Sound is an interesting thing, you think you have a good sound going until you hear something else and then there is no comparision. Though if you go back to the first thing you ear adapts to it.

Anyway, I picked up a Yamaha GE-40 Graphic Equalizer today at a garage sale and wow what a difference it makes to my system. When I turn it on compared to without it, it seems like night and day.

Do you guys use a graphic equalizer? Whats you take. I really cant believe the difference, its amazing.

BTW, I picked up the all from 1 house the GE-40 Equalizer, a very nice Yamaha R-8 Receiver, a monstrous size Onkyo TX-DS747, an AKAI CS-MO2 Tape Deck (from 1980 silver face), 2 JBL J325a Speakers and 2 identical Yamaha CD-450 Cd players for $70. Think I did pretty decent, no?
 
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Sounds like a nice haul you picked up. :thmbsp:

Regarding your question, I used to use an EQ in my early days along with lots of processors , expanders, etc. Since then I have done a 180 and kind of go with less is more, i.e. no EQ, no processors, tone controls defeated, no filters engaged. That's just my thing at the moment. To each his own.

I have always been curious to try an EQ with a pink noise generator and mike to flatten the response of the particular room but have never done it so far. Someday...:scratch2:
 
The only time I use My EQ is when I play DVD's thru my stereo . The DVD's always sound so lifeless .


Nice EQ too .
 
One often-expressed opinion here is that EQ is the work of the Devil, never to be used, or even spoken three times in succession.

Not everyone has a miniaturized auditorium with a parabolic ceiling to set up each of their systems. If you're losing parts of the source program at your favorite listening position an EQ can help. If it sounds good to you, damn the torpedoes. Your tastes and opinions may change, and that's perfectly acceptable, too, since you can adjust to suit.
 
Watthour said:
Not everyone has a miniaturized auditorium with a parabolic ceiling to set up each of their systems.
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Anyone else following PS Audio/Paul McGowan on Youtube fixing-up their new listening room ?

Boy-o-boy the lengths they are going to to 'EQ' that room
 
Ive aways had an EQ of some sort in my system. Never over use it and it should help some recordings, over use it and your push the limits. Mine is actually adjusted very close to the flat positions with just a few low freqs boosted above flat and some mids cut below flat. Its been set like this since I switched to tube amp and pre amp just over a year ago. IMO ONLY, I dont think the main purpose of an EQ is for tone controls. I do think its main purpose is to compensate for speaker/room deficiencies.

Everybody else will have different opinions though, these are just mine.
 
I have a dual 31 band eq.
I use it, though once it is "set" I rarely make changes. Any changes made at that point are extremely minor.
If it sounds good to you, it is good.
Your ears are the only ones that matter.
 
goodolpg said:
I have a dual 31 band eq.
I use it, though once it is "set" I rarely make changes. Any changes made at that point are extremely minor.
If it sounds good to you, it is good.
Your ears are the only ones that matter.
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Yeppur! :yes:

Rome
 
nakmandan said:
Sounds like a nice haul you picked up. :thmbsp:

Regarding your question, I used to use an EQ in my early days along with lots of processors , expanders, etc. Since then I have done a 180 and kind of go with less is more, i.e. no EQ, no processors, tone controls defeated, no filters engaged. That's just my thing at the moment. To each his own.

I have always been curious to try an EQ with a pink noise generator and mike to flatten the response of the particular room but have never done it so far. Someday...:scratch2:
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Try to get an Audio Control C101 with its ORIGINAL microphone and you will be surprised what it can do for your system. I have 4 of them in my systems and never regreted for a moment buying them. To get to a flat response when analyzing with it sometimes you get such a funny curve, one frequency way low and the next one way high and all the others all over the place. Then when you get it flat in the RTA you say "there is no way this is going to sound OK". But then turn the subsonic filter and rumble reducer on and play something. You'll hear things you have never heard before.
You can get then fairly cheap on Ebay. But make sure it has the original microhone, others, including the new ones Audio Control sells, don't work as well. And if you get the manual in is a detailed crash course in working with equalizers.
 
I rarely use an EQ at home and prefer ones that has a real pass-through design when defeated if I do use one.

I find that in some rooms they can be very helpful. This is especially true if you can't change the room. I used one at work for quite a while because the boss wouldn't like it if I start knocking down concrete walls to adjust the sonics in the room! Obviously the room was a "touch bright" among other things, and the EQ helped tame it to listenable.
 
My brother in law uses a Carver sound processer between his cd player and the amp.
He asked me what setting I preferred it on, I did not need to think, I said I liked it before he turned it on.
I prefer to use the defeat mode on amp tone controls, although I have joined the 21st century with the use of several dac's between cd,computer and amp.
Would be grateful if someone could tell me what the Carver processer is and what it is supposed to bring to the table?
 
Newb Alert:

I always read people say stuff like "This receiver makes my speakers sound better" or "this receiver has awesome sound"...until now I didnt quite understand that because I havent had many receivers and they all kind sound the same. But now that I attached an equalizer I notice the difference, the huge difference in sound with the equalizer turned on and when off.

So is that kinda how a great receiver (Marantz for example) sounds? Like a receiver with a great equalizer (without actually having an equalizer)? Or do great receivers also need or get better with an external equalizers?

What Im trying to get to is, if all things are equal and I plug in some mid level receiver and then a high end receiver....will I have that same wow feeling in comparision as to when I know compare my Receiver with and without an equalizer?
 
NJguy said:
Newb Alert:

I always read people say stuff like "This receiver makes my speakers sound better" or "this receiver has awesome sound"...until now I didnt quite understand that because I havent had many receivers and they all kind sound the same. But now that I attached an equalizer I notice the difference, the huge difference in sound with the equalizer turned on and when off.

So is that kinda how a great receiver (Marantz for example) sounds? Like a receiver with a great equalizer (without actually having an equalizer)? Or do great receivers also need or get better with an external equalizers?

What Im trying to get to is, if all things are equal and I plug in some mid level receiver and then a high end receiver....will I have that same wow feeling in comparision as to when I know compare my Receiver with and without an equalizer?
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We all hear things differently, and more important, we all like our music the way we like our music. Just because someone else likes something better, doesn't mean you will. Try things. Listen to everything you can. You will know when you find the right combination.
 
I am using the onkyo as my tv amp.

I did return the yamaha receiver and 2 cd players as the didnt work. The guy returned 25 bucks. So the rest cost 45
 
I've got a Yamaha GE-60 and, in my less-than-ideal listening space, I consider it essential.

I don't use tone controls, and I don't use the EQ to tailor the sound of individual albums. I don't even use it to modify the overall sonic profile of my equipment.

Instead, I use it, with a Sound Pressure Level meter, to correct for room-based anomalies.

Of course I could unwittingly be EQ'ing for irregularities in the frequency response of my speakers. But given how different the L and R channel readings are at many frequencies, most of what I'm correcting for is the room.

Without that EQ, the sound is noticeably less focused and dynamic.
 
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