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veneer saw- what type do you prefer?

thedelihaus

thedelihaus

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Has anyone used a veneer saw before? Seems there are two basic options- one being a small hand-tool with dowel handle, the size of a paint scraper or putty knife, the other a 12" saw with grip handle, looking like a hacksaw in size/shape. Anyone use either of these? Prefer one over the other? It will be used for veneering speakers, of course. :D

links-

hand-size (can be had for $12 to $20 dollars)-

http://cgi.ebay.com/Two-Cherries-Ve...ryZ67234QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

12" size (can be had for $5 to $20)-

http://cgi.ebay.com/Nicholson-prest...ryZ20768QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/Bahco-Veneer-Sa...ryZ20768QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
 
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Don't use a saw, they are to rough in the veneer it will chip it out. Use razor blades or if you can get a router/laminate trimmer use staight cut bit with bearing.

I've done many types of veneering projects over the last year or so and taken several classes and I've never used or seen one used. The gentleman that teaches the classes has done a few Steinways, and he never uses one.

Just my opinion, don't buy something you don't really need.

G
 
I prefer the sharp blade (changed often) and router trimming bit method as well. Seems a little easier to control chipping and even worked well on a recent project where I used very difficult, dry cocobola that chipped out if you looked at it wrong.
 
I have the two cherries veneer saw and like it a lot. The offset handle and curved blade make it very easy to use for flush trimming. You do have to be careful at the ends so you don't chip the veneer. Just push lightly from the end in towards the center and you should be OK. Sometimes I'll score the ends with a razor blade before trimming it with the saw. I would pass on the flat blade saws. They look like trouble to me.

Nothing wrong with using a router and flush trim bit. On big items like speaker cabinets a router will work well. On small stuff like receiver cases, it can be a pain to try to clamp the case securely so it doesn't move. Also, the router can't do the beveled edges you find on some receiver cases. Razor blades tend to follow the wood grain and can be tricky to use.

There are lots of ways to trim veneer. Which you choose depends on the situation and personal preference.

- Pete
 
True Pete, a router is pretty unwieldy on smaller projects and I can see where a carefully used veneer saw would be a better choice there. Wrestling with a router or knife cutting things 'close' and finishing with a file or sanding block as I've done on small stuff in the past isn't fun.

Next time I have a small project I think I'll grab the two cherries.
 
Joe has the veneer saw and for an extra $6 will sharpen so you get a razor cut (worht the $$$). Works on the PULL so you have control. I have used it on my last proj. Still learning. This works great for cutting off veneer against the end grain. One thing that I will do next time is to use some wide low tack tape to cover any area that has veneer while I cut another area (like sides vereered and then top goes on and you need to trim the top from a side with veneer). That should protect the veneered side.

The edge trimmer from Rockler works great on the long run. Only thing you have to do is make sure you are cutting INTO the grian and not with. If you cut WITH you will dig into the edge. As long as you are cutting AGAINST the grain it does a bang up job.

http://www.joewoodworker.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=37&products_id=609

$13.30 + $6.00 = $19.30


http://www.joewoodworker.com/catalo...=2235&osCsid=9f29841c2a30c42287405b495cbab320

$58.00 kit

http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page=1266


http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page=1094
 
I will have to give the two cherries a try, but for speakers the small router will still be the ticket for me.

G
 
I did a pair of Klipsh Fortes with the saw and edge trimmer. I do not have a router, and my "shop" is about 8 feet on one side of my garage:) It can be done!!! :)

http://audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?t=53235&highlight=klipsch+forte


Also liked the pre-glued veneer from:
http://www.tapeease.com/

That is what I used on the Forte's. I may get some additional pre-glued veneer from them so I can have it ready (different wood... Cherry??).. I have a pair of Infinity QAs waiting in the wings for a veneer job. I have enough of the pre-glued red oak to do them. My next veneer prolect:)
 
I just did a few pioneer components as my first veneering jobs and only used the Band-It edge trimmer and sandpaper to do the edges and it was a lot of work. But I know that I am learning from doing it the hard way. One thing for sure, as stated above, is that you want to score or cut into the outer edges with your razor blade ahead of time to avoid chipping the veneer. Make sure you have your patience with you also when veneering.

http://audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?t=60335&highlight=veneer+job

http://audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?t=61108

Paul
 
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