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"I asked AI" - are we really getting that lazy?

leesonic

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I see a lot of things where people are asking AI for the most basic of information. For example, I read a thread where someone was trying to find out some specs about some speakers. Let's say, Pioneer HPM-700 for arguments sake. It said "I asked AI", and it came back with these specs. But if you run the same query not using AI, by using the command in Google "pioneer hpm-700 -ai", the first link that comes back is from HiFiEngine, and you don't even need to be logged in to see the specs.

https://www.hifiengine.com/manual_library/pioneer/hpm-700.shtml

And there is always the search function on here up in the top right corner, should you want to see if the information is here.

But it's not just AudioKarma. I'm on a Facebook group for grey cats. Someone posted a picture of the cats face or mouth, and said "I asked AI what this could be, and it said ringworm". Dude, they have people to tell you that, they're called Veterinarians. You'll 99% of the time end up taking your pet there anyway to get them treated. I certainly wouldn't give my furry feline any medicine or treatment without consulting with a Vet.

Or take car forums. I see people posting "I wondered what my car would look like in green, so I asked AI to draw it". Chances are, it will draw your car wrong anyway. I comment on plenty of car threads where people post pictures of cars, but they are total AI generated slop. A Ford Granada (UK/Euro spec) with a transverse engine? Come on. Worse still is the "I asked AI what spark plugs to use in my car". If you spend a little time on RockAuto, Pep Boys, O'Reilly's, or whoever your favorite store is, you'll find that answer without asking AI.
 
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leesonic said:
I see a lot of things where people are asking AI for the most basic of information. For example, I read a thread where someone was trying to find out some specs about some speakers. Let's say, Pioneer HPM-700 for arguments sake. It said "I asked AI", and it came back with these specs. But if you run the same query not using AI, by using the command in Google "pioneer hpm-700 -ai", the first link that comes back is from HiFiEngine, and you don't even need to be logged in to see the specs.

https://www.hifiengine.com/manual_library/pioneer/hpm-700.shtml

And there is always the search function on here up in the top right corner, should you want to see if the information is here.

But it's not just AudioKarma. I'm on a Facebook group for grey cats. Someone posted a picture of the cats face or mouth, and said "I asked AI what this could be, and it said ringworm". Dude, they have people to tell you that, they're called Veterinarians. You'll 99% of the time end up taking your pet there anyway to get them treated. I certainly wouldn't give my furry feline any medicine or treatment without consulting with a Vet.

Or take car forums. I see people posting "I wondered what my car would look like in green, so I asked AI to draw it". Chances are, it will draw your car wrong anyway. I comment on plenty of car threads where people post pictures of cars, but they are total AI generated slop. A Ford Granada (UK/Euro spec) with a transverse engine? Come on. Worse still is the "I asked AI what spark plugs to use in my car". If you spend a little time on RockAuto, Pep Boys, O'Reilly's, or whoever your favorite store is, you'll find that answer without asking AI.
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Think time saving time and ease of use in first step of looking things up.

for instance, get some information on something like "this XXX on my YYY, what can it be" without see the specialist, and 90% of the time geting the same information.
 
SolderIron said:
Think time saving time and ease of use in first step of looking things up.

for instance, get some information on something like "this XXX on my YYY, what can it be" without see the specialist, and 90% of the time geting the same information.
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And what are people doing with all this extra time they save?
 
i have never intentionally used AI search, but most times it is the top answer from google.
i noticed the other day ( i looked up some info on plants )
my AI answer was a direct quote from a reddit post 3 answers further down the page
 
I use Firefox as my browser and Duck Duck Go as my search. They don't default to an AI search process like Google does.

I stopped using Google because of it's AI First, All The Rest Is Secondary default search process these days. Oh, did I say Google sucks now? Yeah, I did... :rolleyes:
 
I don’t use AI, per se, but google does list an AI response at the top after a search. I usually ignore it as I have noticed many errors in the responses.

Mostly car stuff.

Rob
 
I'm sold! I've been using AI as my preferred search tool for a few months. I think it absolutely destroys the old Google search.

It's richer in content, faster, and most importantly, the presentation of results is ORGANIZED. And at the end, lists all the logical follow up questions I might find useful.

I like it in particular for its ability to access what seems like every user manual ever created. When I want to know how to get a certain setting for my camera, i don't consult the 509 page manual. I just ask " how do I do X?" In 2 seconds I have the complete step by step process that is specific to exactly my equipment. Then, the best part is that it will also suggest alternative methods for getting the same result.

I hope AI fails utterly at taking over "managing the population" and all the dystopian ideas Peter Thiel and the NSA are cooking up out of the public eye. But, when that fails, consumers will be left with a better search engine than Google.
 
jsisk said:
The biggest problem is that as AI harvests data from the internet, it has no way to know what is fact and what is fiction.
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Facts are mostly just claims. Doesn't matter who is making the claim, they rarely can provide any insight into how the fact was VERIFIED. Without rigorous verification the claim is meaningless.

Just try to imagine what it would take to verify any claim-- it's daunting.
 
Robisme said:
I don’t use AI, per se, but google does list an AI response at the top after a search. I usually ignore it as I have noticed many errors in the responses.

Mostly car stuff.

Rob
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The AI response on google is just based on the info that follows(if you actually step past page one)..
It's using the info already out there(right or wrong) and displaying the most popular/repetitive..

If we misinform it, it'll continue to misinform us..

Teach it, it'll teach the future us..
 
I wouldn't be asking AI where to drill into someone's skull to relieve pressure, or which penny stick to invest my entire retirement account.

If it tells me a wrong setting on my camera it probably won't lead to armageddon---will it?

This what wifey did the first time she tried AI.........IMG_3637.jpeg
 
jsisk said:
The biggest problem is that as AI harvests data from the internet, it has no way to know what is fact and what is fiction.
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I worry about those posts that heighten one’s anxiety to 10. “You have to do this now! Or the sky will fall!” Of course, several flying monkeys add to the thread’s hysteria.

For example: Some guy on a Honda board was told on Reddit to “Change the crankcase oil jets, now! Or the engine will fail prematurely!” Even though the engine was working fine.

What happened? No one tells him how hard the fix is. Nor the potential problems. He ends up stripping the aluminum threads in the block that hold the steel oil banjo bolts. He comes to a Honda board to ask what to do. Heilcoil and pray.

Of course, the posters on Reddit either say, “You misunderstood us. Or this is a simple fix — you had to have messed it up. It's your fault!”

So that’s where he is now.

Sometimes, I think these “mechanic” experts have never done this fix and are just repeating what Google or AI told them. Ironic, isn't it?

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AI is already in the doomed feedback loop. AI now relies on prior AI slop to train itself. This feedback loop will eventually be too far gone, polluted by its own fake creations, to be worthwhile. The LLM will be seen as a fail. Model collapse is coming.
 
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