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Don't Fear the Reefer
Craigslist strikes again. A few days ago during my daily perusal, I noticed a posting for a pair "Cerwin Vega S-2" speakers, asking price $70. The seller claimed audiophile quality construction, audiophile quality sound--but I was skeptical. I'd always dismissed CV speakers as mass market crap. The one grainy photo the man posted didn't so much look like that, though, and what little info I could find on these things didn't sound so much like that, so when he dropped the price to $50 on Friday, I lost the fight and went to look.

What I found was this: Two VAST old school box speakers--seriously, the hugeness of these things makes my HPM-100's look like bookshelf speakers. The weight is also vast; I'm guessing it at around 80 lbs. each. One 15" cast frame woofer with signature red surround in cloth rather than foam, slot loaded via the rear baffle. One 6.5" stamped frame midrange, with rotted foam, set in a sort of open baffle via tube that goes all the way through the box (many apparently mistake this for a rear port). Two phenolic(?) tweeters, one in the front baffle, one in the back. Cabinets constructed of no **** furniture grade plywood on top, bottom and sides, veneer over particle board front and rear, all fully 1" thick. Fairly extensive internal bracing. Minor scuffing and the obligatory water rings on both. Rather simple crossover with separate attenuators for front and rear tweeters and midrange. Both grilles present, all mounting pegs intact, both nameplates present with minor scuffs on one, one small pinhole in the grille cloth.

The photos:

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When I saw all of this, I had to get them. Despite the fact that vintage audio equipment is stacked in three rooms of my house (one of the virtues of living alone), I had to get them. I didn't even try to talk the guy down. They definitely have the audiophile construction, but the sound remains to be seen. I have to find a way to keep my hands off them until the surrounds arrive. Even then, I suspect that they will obliterate my little 14'x14' listening room.

Finally: Can anybody hook me up with specs for these things? I can't find much of anything on the web. In particular, I'd like to find out the crossover points.
 
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Just wow! Those cabs look just like the HED U-15's I had back in the day. Seriously big, seriously loud. Great party speakers when I was in college back in 197-something. Although yours have that rear slot-loaded port and cloth surround woofers whereas mine had 2 rear sewage-pipe sized ports and foam surrounds. I've seen that style of rear port on CV's before, but a pleated cloth surround? The CV experts will have to chime in on these as they are totally new to me. At first glance, I'd say you did quite well. :yes:

Dave
 
I'm certainly hoping it was money well spent. Really, considering that the build quality is at least equal to that of my JBL 4311's and Pioneer HPM-100's, I'm hoping for good things. These will be the first Cerwin Vega's I've ever heard; I have to admit that my previous dismissal of the brand was based entirely on hearsay.

One other thing I should note: The actual model model number is S-2EE. It looks kind of like an afterthought. The grille nameplate indicates S-2, and the S-2EE is present only on the control panel, in the form of a sticker casually slapped on, probably over the S-2 that was originally stencilled on it. I can't help wondering what the difference between the two models is.
 
One more thing--a photo with the grille in place:

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Those grille frames are solid pieces of furniture hardwood. No veneer on 'em.
 
Troy:

Those look like seriously expensive CV's of their day. I'll be interested to hear what vegabass and the other CV knowledgeable have to say about them. Although no longer a big CV fan, I would be all over those were they to pop up on my local CL. Those bullet phenolic-ring tweeters look really interesting. Kudos to CV for resisting the piezo trend of the period.

Dave
 
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Wait for VegaBass to chime in or PM him ................. He seems to be one of the resident experts here on Cerwin Vega speakers.

They sure look like they'd "kick ass & take names" .............. nice find in my opinion. The cloth surrounds are a plus too.
 
Welcome to the club. They are definatly rarer, higher end CVs. looks like the woofers may have been reconed or replaced. Ill look around for specs BRB
 
Many thanks for your efforts. I'm eagerly awaiting your findings.

Concerning the woofers, I'm sure that you're far more versed in this than I, but if these things were reconed, it was an extremely professional job. They look absolutely pristine--completely unmarked, completely undisturbed.

Didn't some of the earlier Cerwin-Vega's have cloth surrounds?
 
These are Early 80s. Yeah a few CV used cloth in that period. 380SE, CD-90, PD-9 and professional models. Either way the woofers will work because most 15" cv woofers have the same specs. Still waiting on more info.
 
My brother-in-law had the S-1s and he told me they were $1K a piece (retail) back in the mid seventies.

What you have are the bigger brother to what my bro-in-law had.

You've done well Grasshopper! :yes:

Scott
 
Still, weren't the S-2s designed to be "new & improved"?

I know that's not always the case, but it sounds good on paper. :)

Scott
 
Still, weren't the S-2s designed to be "new & improved"?

I know that's not always the case, but it sounds good on paper. :)

Scott

Yeah. Heftier woofers and better power handling. Im Not sure what model they improved over though :scratch2:
 
Could they be the original woofers, where someone replaced the foam surrounds with the pleated cloth?
 
Reimers is right. Those woofers are from the later SE-380, PD-9's. They should work fine. The crossover points should be 300Hz for the mid, and 3500 for the tweeters. These appear to be late model S-2's. The original S-2's from 1976-77 had real walnut veneer, mf-61 sealed mid, and a SuperDhorm, no tweeter on back. I believe that the S-2EE was an overseas or Canadian model. By the tweeters used, this was probably made in the early 1980's.
 
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My orion Blue book shows the S-1 at $930 list, but the only high priced speaker listed is the SR-2 monitor at $3400. The U351 was $864. One way or another you found karma!
 
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