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Electronic Crossover

bhunter

bhunter

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I'm in need of splitting my signal between preamp and amps, thus I need an electronic crossover. I'd like to minimize cost and I am wondering if people have been happy with the Behringer CX-2310. I'm particularly interested in how much it might degrade the signal. Also, where is a good place to purchase xlr to rca adapters? Any other suggestions most welcome.

TIA
bhunter
 
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I use the CX2310 for my tweets and mids while using plate amp controls for the bass in a 3 way tri-amped system. I thought about using a fixed active but I like being able to alter the XO points and output levels on the fly. The CX2310 to my ear seems transparent in my system. I tried the Behringer 3 way which I returned as it added it's own sonic signature and was a PITA to set up. I bought all my inexpensive but high quailty XLR to RCA cables from Monoprice.


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I tried using adaptors and my own cables with the Behringer but it made for a less secure connection due to the excessive length of RCA's plugging into the adaptors.

An entire XLR to RCA cable at Monoprice cost about the same as one adaptor on Amazon.
 
Poultrygeist said:
I tried using adaptors and my own cables with the Behringer but it made for a less secure connection due to the excessive length of RCA's plugging into the adaptors.

An entire XLR to RCA cable at Monoprice cost about the same as one adaptor on Amazon.
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Agreed! I like the cables with the appropriate connectors, not adaptors.

As for the Xover there all about the same, while your looking at GC look at there xovers too.
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Hosa-XRM-105-5--RCA-XLR-Male-Cable-333031-i1128925.gc?source=4XBACR

http://www.guitarcenter.com/Crossovers-Signal-Processors.gc?ipp=100
 
+1:thmbsp: I agree with Poultrygeist. I have a Behringer CX2310 that I'm quite satisfied with. It seems to be quite transparent through my esl's. I use RCA to XLR adaptors only on the inputs. MY ARC preamp has only single ended outputs. My Dyna MKIII's have been modified to use XLR's. The DSP1124P and the Crowns that drive my subs have XLR inputs.
 
The Monoprice XLR to RCA's are thick but flexible with high quality ends.

I was shocked at how nice they are for what they cost.
 
FMODS can't compensate for different amplifier sensitivities, different speaker sensitivities and (of course) different amplifier power ratings. You need level controls for this.
 
FMODS can't compensate for different amplifier sensitivities, different speaker sensitivities and (of course) different amplifier power ratings. You need level controls for this.

Check their website... they have 3, 6, and 12dB attenuators also. I use them to match levels.

One reason many favor actives is to avoid signal loss.

No signal loss, just the frequencies that are attenuated, if that's what you mean.
No distortion either, because they aren't active.
 
What if you need 4dB or 9dB or 2dB of attenuation? What if you have a consistent 1dB of difference? Variable is almost always better than fixed. I considered FMODS but rejected them because of a lack of flexibility.

BTW: RC networks (FMODS) are not distortion free. Passive components especially capacitors can and do introduce distortion.
 
I use an Ashly XR1001 with JBL 4345s and I'm very happy with the results. I can use XLRs but don't have to and, since the entire system isn't balanced (RCA pre-amp outs), I don't bother.
 
Poultrygeist said:
The Monoprice XLR to RCA's are thick but flexible with high quality ends.

I was shocked at how nice they are for what they cost.
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Thanks for the Behringer report. I've been debating between the CX2310 and the miniDSP. I tend to prefer analog knobs, but then the miniDSP is rather intriguing. BTW, I've been following your OB pursuits. I found the King paper an interesting read.
 
BMWCCA said:
I use an Ashly XR1001 with JBL 4345s and I'm very happy with the results. I can use XLRs but don't have to and, since the entire system isn't balanced (RCA pre-amp outs), I don't bother.
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I also was going to recomend Ashly's and Rane as well.
 
miniDSP

bhunter said:
Thanks for the Behringer report. I've been debating between the CX2310 and the miniDSP. I tend to prefer analog knobs, but then the miniDSP is rather intriguing. BTW, I've been following your OB pursuits. I found the King paper an interesting read.
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I've heard nothing but good about the miniDSP. Thir earlier balanced units had some people complaining of noise but these issues were generally solved after the owners learned how to adjust for proper gain.

The newer units like the 4 x 10 and 10 x 10 seem to be very well respected and there are no reliability issues. Definitely worth serous consideration IMO.
 
I would use DCX2496 instead. If you will be able to do all processing before DAC, it will be even better (though more costly, as you would need to use 4-6 DACs).
 
What if you need 4dB or 9dB or 2dB of attenuation? What if you have a consistent 1dB of difference? Variable is almost always better than fixed. I considered FMODS but rejected them because of a lack of flexibility.


They also have variable attenuators. Again; check the website.
 
I had the Behringer 3 way stereo X-over in my tri amp'ed system for about two years...The XLR connections are loose and a total PITA and the controls are hard to see. It failed on me a couple weeks ago, both sides of the low end signal lost, so I bought a DBX model 234s or something, I'm at Starbucks so not certain of model #, anyway, the connections are more secure with 1/4 to RCA connections. I have been happy with tri amping but did not realize what an improvement in bass response and clearity a better XO could realize...
 
bhunter said:
I'm in need of splitting my signal between preamp and amps, thus I need an electronic crossover. I'd like to minimize cost and I am wondering if people have been happy with the Behringer CX-2310. I'm particularly interested in how much it might degrade the signal. Also, where is a good place to purchase xlr to rca adapters? Any other suggestions most welcome.

TIA
bhunter
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I think that you will get what you pay for. But bear in mind, also, Behringer is 'Pro' stuff, and, as such, can be mismatched in a home system. ( Not to mention that it is also built to a price and is usually a copy of another, more expensive, better piece of equipment.) Look into the Richter series of crossover units. Not the cheapest, but build quality is good, and they sound good, too.
 
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