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'64-65 Grundig Console

larryderouin

larryderouin

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Picked up this Grundig Model KS-590 today at the GW. At 1st I thought it wa SS then I saw the Dual 1009. HMMMM. The back plates were off and full of original tubes. All Siemens branded with the outputs being Valvo's.

The Tuner felt like the string was broke.

Plunked down my cash and dragged it home.
Tubes all checked out fine. A bit dirty, so I cleaned it up with Orange Hand Cleaner, a toothbrush and some rags. The 1009 had a 2000E Empire on it, but the Grundig sounded tinny on Phono, so I put a Astatic 17D cartridge on it.

Tuner string on FM was broke but the LW, MW (AM), SW was intact. the clutches were worn out, so that when you selected FM or the others, the clutches wouldn't engage. Set both the tuners at the end, and tightened up the tuner clutches so they stayed engaged all the time. The FM Tuner line then broke after 3 cycles. DAMN!! The Normal line is too thick so I have to find some really thin line and some wire like 30ga that will take the strain, then reline the FM tuner. It does have a separate Multiplexer. And I got the Schematic for the Multiplexer. (see pics).

It lacks bass and what is there is slightly distorted. Highs and Mids are overly bright. Figure it needs a recap. Planned on it for a winter project. Now all I have to do is find a manual/schematic for it.

WAF is Good. Legs are removable, and looks like a lowboy style. The speaker baskets look to be chromed. WTH??

Pics Below.

OUTPUTS are ELL-80's (6HU8's).

Larry
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Can't tell what those wrapped up drivers are but I suspect though once you get the old caps replaced it'll all start to come together. Those Dortmund drivers (red magnet covers) are efficient but quite beamy. If I recall correctly they image well if you are in the sweet spot.
 
Hiya,

That Dual 1009 turntable aint no slouch either. That is a nice pickup Larry. I love the styling on it.

Frannie
 
If you unwrap the bass speakers you'll probably find that the funky foam surrounds they used has completely rotted away and the cones are just flopping around. I had to rig some new surrounds on mine to get them to work properly since nobody sells the appropriate size ones.
 
If you find the foams are the problem maybe I can dig up some old info where a guy used cloth and rubber sealant to refurb them. I just used some old cloth covered foam car headliner material that I had around here. It sounds silly but the foam is only used to hold the cone to the basket and the paper cone itself does all the flexing.

edit: The DaLarry post below is exactly what I was talking about.
 
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Beautiful looking unit

Looks a lot like my KS 490. And the state sounds pretty much like my own. The bass drivers need refoaming. I did mine myself and put the whole story up on AudioKarma. Once they're fixed, the bass is awesome. I stiil have the photos if you're interested. It will show you exactly how I replaced the rotted foam with an old tee shirt. Let me know if you want me to post them.

The FM clutch just disintegrated and and turned to dust in my hands. I ended up jury rigging a fishing line to engage the clutch when I want to change FM stations. Mine is a year or three older than yours. It was bought in Europe before FM multiplexing by an old Sgt. Major, and the dial only goes up to 104.
 
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Scuzzer said:
If you find the foams are the problem maybe I can dig up some old info where a guy used cloth and rubber sealant to refurb them. I just used some old cloth covers foam car headliner material that I had around here.
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What's up Scuzzer! I've been getting myself healthy and haven't been posting for awhile.
 
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Can't tell what those wrapped up drivers are but I suspect though once you get the old caps replaced it'll all start to come together. Those Dortmund drivers (red magnet covers) are efficient but quite beamy. If I recall correctly they image well if you are in the sweet spot.
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It's damn near impossible to get in there to replace those caps unless you have a robotic surgery machine.
 
A Little Refoam Assist.

I was wrong! I posted my speaker refoam project right hear on AK.

Check it out. The good stuff starts on the second page.
 
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Dammit dude you had me scared for awhile since the last I heard was just after your diagnosis. You doin' ok man?
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I just picked up a sweet Scott 222-D as a Father's day gift to myself. It is an incredibly sweet sounding box.
 
It's odd. The day we met at for you to get your KS 490 I was really sick with some kind of walking pneumonia. I got over that and then I was diagnosed with the big "C". It was aggressive but it never got outside my bladder or invaded the muscle tissue. It never got loose, so when the Dr. cut it out I was completely cured. It never really made me feel bad. I felt totally normal, but it was depressing knowing I had this thing hanging over my head.
 
Awesome Grundig console

Beautiful Modern styling

Thanks for enlightening me on how to set the clutch and then locking it down

You gotta love those German Consoles

I got three
 
Hah... I do believe I have he same amp here. Never heard it , wonder if it would be worth messing with? Kinda' cool, has a input voltage selector. You can select 110v or 130v (also 240 and one other) Nice cause at my house the norm is 122 to 126 volts...... Looks a bit cramped underneath.

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OH YEAH! The Amp is definately cramped.

Thanks for the Fishing line idea. Didn't think about that. The standard tuner string from WJOE is too damned thick. The original is like a metal Guitar string.

Haven't checked the speakers yet, but it sounds more like caps. Got a couple axials in the amp and tuner that are flaky looking (bulging out the ends.). So a recap is planned. I'll get into the speakers shortly and find out what's what.

Larry
 
Here you go.
 

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