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ADS L-1530 tweeter value

Jenkster

Jenkster

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I have a spare set of ADS 206-0113 Samarium Cobalt magnet tweeters for my ADS L-1530 speakers. They are in excellent physical and working condition. Little to no debris on the domes and both measure 3.8 DCR on my meter. I had the original pair re-built by Richard So and really have no need for this extra pair. I have done some research and can't seem to find any recent postings or sales for this particular tweeter. It is my understanding that they were only used in three speakers, The L-2030, L-1530 and L-1290 but I could be wrong.:dunno:

Does anyone have a clue of an approx. value? Any help would be appreciated.
 

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ADS components can vary wildly on ebay, lower model tweeters tend to range from 20-40 with the higher models going for 40-60, each.


while it may fit other models yours are distinctly for a 1530, the 1290 you mentioned doesnt have that writing on the top, with that in mind, i'd charge at least 100 a piece for them on the first go, because as you stated, its not like you can just buy them every day, you know?

also, with that being said, I wouldnt sell em, Richard wont be around forever and when he's gone, we're all F'd
 
I believe they were used in only the 1530 and 2030's. Both series of the 1290 used a 206-0117 in my experience. I'd put a premium on them due to rarity and the fact they don't come along near as often if ever as say the 206-0107/206-0117 used across a number of models. They'd be worth more to keep if I owned either the 1530's or 2030's.
 
Those don't look right at all. The originals didn't have a sticker with the gauss info on it; that was molded into the faceplate.
 
audiomagnate said:
Those don't look right at all. The originals didn't have a sticker with the gauss info on it; that was molded into the faceplate.
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Those tweeters are spot on. The pics are probably fooling you but I don't believe it's a sticker at all. I'll bet that the logo and lettering are etched and raised as they should.
 
I owned a pair of 1530s for years, and even used a close-up of the tweeter here on AK for my avatar, and they didn't look like that. I'll try to dig up a good photo.
 
I believe these are legit, and there's another version that is the type audiomagnate is describing with the embossed faceplate. Richard would know for sure but I think that is the case. Makes it hard to tell with used 2030/1530 systems if they have the original samarium cobalt tweeters or not, because that label can come off with age. Have to rely on seeing the model marking on the rear at that point.

John
 
The tweeters are original to my pair of L-1530's. The baffles are in perfect, un-marked condition. It took some creative and careful manipulation to pry them off of the baffle and there was still a bit of damage I caused around the edges. They are in the exact same condition as the mid-range drivers and woofers. I have no doubt they are original to these speakers.

I have a second pair of these tweeters that I personally removed from a pair of beat up L-2030's, how did that happen?:dunno: They are identical in every way to the other pair. I sent them to Richard So to be re-built as they were covered in dust and one had some damage. He confirmed that pair is original so I have no doubt these are original. Maybe this is later in production and they changed the cosmetics a bit?
 
Ouch. Next time, try running a larger metal screw into one corner hole such that it bites on the tweeter flange, then use that screw to apply leverage against the faceplate with a pad to protect the wood surface. Allows you to break the bond w/o damaging the wood surface, and any minor marking of the edge of the screw hole on the tweeter faceplate will be hidden by the original screw when it's reinstalled.


John
 
jdurbin1 said:
Ouch. Next time, try running a larger metal screw into one corner hole such that it bites on the tweeter flange, then use that screw to apply leverage against the faceplate with a pad to protect the wood surface. Allows you to break the bond w/o damaging the wood surface, and any minor marking of the edge of the screw hole on the tweeter faceplate will be hidden by the original screw when it's reinstalled.


John
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awesome tip!
 
jdurbin1 said:
I believe these are legit, and there's another version that is the type audiomagnate is describing with the embossed faceplate. Richard would know for sure but I think that is the case. Makes it hard to tell with used 2030/1530 systems if they have the original samarium cobalt tweeters or not, because that label can come off with age. Have to rely on seeing the model marking on the rear at that point.

John
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I still think they're fakes. Large companies don't go to the trouble and expense of making a highly visible luxury logo part and subsequently substituting a home-made looking replacement somewhere in the production run. It doesn't work that way. In the unlikely event they needed more they would just make more. They might (I doubt it) be OEM replacements made for warranty replacements after the originals ran out, but there is no way ADS would have put something like that in a new 1530 or a 2030.
 
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Great tip!

jdurbin1 said:
Ouch. Next time, try running a larger metal screw into one corner hole such that it bites on the tweeter flange, then use that screw to apply leverage against the faceplate with a pad to protect the wood surface. Allows you to break the bond w/o damaging the wood surface, and any minor marking of the edge of the screw hole on the tweeter faceplate will be hidden by the original screw when it's reinstalled.


John
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That's a great hack!
 
At what point do you consider ADS was a large company? This was fairly early on, and everything was being built in-house. It wasn't a mass-production operation then or ever. And, those faceplates were not an expensive item to produce or tool.

You're entitled to your opinion but I'll stick with mine. I don't think they're fakes. I saw way funkier things than that being done in later years... too bad soundmotor doesn't come around as often, he was probably there at the time and would know for sure.

Could be replacement parts though, some of them did have labels like that on the back and possibly they had lost access to the original tooling that produced the stamped ones. And, the company was increasingly financially constrained in later years so might not have been in a position to address that. Better to have a replacement part that works correctly, even if it lacks that special marking on the front.

Screw it, I'll ask Richard... he'll know. Stay tuned.

John

audiomagnate said:
I still think they're fakes. Large companies don't go to the trouble and expense of making a highly visible luxury logo part and subsequently substituting a home-made looking replacement somewhere in the production run. It doesn't work that way. In the unlikely event they needed more they would just make more. They might (I doubt it) be OEM replacements made for warranty replacements after the originals ran out, but there is no way ADS would have put something like that in a new 1530 or a 2030.
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Initial answer from Richard is that there were two different tweeter models used, and one of the two (the 206-0119) was not marked the same (at least, not consistently). Getting more detail on that part but I think we'll find these are correct tweeters for the L1530, not incorrectly subbed parts.


John
 
More complete answer:

According to Richard, the 206-0113 was always built using hi energy magnet and always came with label 22000 Gauss. The 206-0119 from L1590 was built with and without hi energy magnet and had no label.

Although the L1530/L2030 were built with 206-0113, that part was superseded by the 206-0119 later (as a replacement, anyway) according to the factory parts book.

So, the ones with no hi energy marking on the front are not fakes if they are marked as 206-0119 or have the higher energy magnet structure, but are probably replacement parts or came from a 1590 (series 1) and are ok as a substitute. If they lack the high energy motor and aren't marked or are marked other than 206-0119, they don't belong on an L1530 or L2030.

John
 
I have have a pair of ADS L1530 speakers but one has a dead tweeter. I might be interested on doing a deal if they are still available. Brian
 
HyKlas said:
No afil obviously...

www.adsspeakerservice.com

Don't dispose of the old one, get it rebuilt.
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I ran into this thread on a Google search. For the record - I know that the 206-0113 tweeters in my L1530 are original and have never been out of the speaker for any kind of refurbishment. Here is a photo of my L1530 upper drivers. You may clearly see that it is not embossed, but an adhesive sticker.
 

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