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Advice on 40 - 50" ish LCD vs Plasma...

LCruiser122 said:
What about the ticker on ESPN or the logos channels now put in corner of channel. Can these create burn-in.

I think I want a plasma. The picture is just more pleasing to me. I'm not a gamer. The glare issue is the biggest drawback for me with plasma but luckily I can control the light well in this room.

What about 720p vs 1080p in a 40 or 42" size? Will I see a difference?
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About burn in with plasma TVs. Whether you will have a problem with that or not will depend on how you use the TV. I suggest that you download the manual of whatever plasma TV you are considering and read it before you buy, paying careful attention to the warnings about how to avoid burn in. If you are fine with taking the necessary steps, then you should be fine. Just remember, if you ignore such warnings, you do so at your own peril, as no plasma manufacturer gives a warranty against burn in. If ANY of them had completely eliminated the risk of burn in on their TVs, they would give a warranty against it and advertise how much better their sets were than anyone else's.

I have read (at another audio/video site) people saying that burn in is a thing of the past, not to be worried about, etc. Afterwards, I have seen people post about their burn in problems, and then people call them idiots for not paying attention to the warnings in the manual! Burn in is real, and can be a problem, if the TV is used in certain ways. Read the manual for its warnings, and act accordingly. Do not simply trust what some random person says on line, including me. Read the warnings in the manual of the TV you are considering before you buy. Judge by that, not by what this or any other post says.
 
I resisted plasma for years while spending thousands on LCD. . . This year I gave in and will not worry about burn in etc. etc.

I bought a Pioneer Elite PRO-111FD (50in Plasma) and have been glued to it ever since setting it up. . .

4 years ago I bought Sony's best (actually #2) for over 4 grand and loved it every minute of it till I saw this Pioneer. . .

Common sense combined with 9th generation plasma. . . WOW!!!

Not everone will spend 5 grand (bust out retail) for a TV but Samsung and Panasonic have very close runner's up for much much less money. . .

PLASMA!!!
 
mulester7 said:
.....question....anyone....with or without Hi-Def, which picture gives the more crisp and life-like image-quality, plasma or DLP?....(opinions gathered in TV stores count).....
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I have LCD hiDef tv (720p) but I like the color and smoothness of plasma better but have always been told to stay away from plasma. I think I'm gonna get a 40 - 42" plasma (most likely Samsung) for my den / office soon.
I'll be buying another HD tv soon after, probably 50 - 53". The 53" ish one will go in the living room. Not sure if I'll go LCD or plasma there. A little harder to control the light in that room.
 
gyusher said:
I resisted plasma for years while spending thousands on LCD. . . This year I gave in and will not worry about burn in etc. etc.

I bought a Pioneer Elite PRO-111FD (50in Plasma) and have been glued to it ever since setting it up. . .

4 years ago I bought Sony's best (actually #2) for over 4 grand and loved it every minute of it till I saw this Pioneer. . .

Common sense combined with 9th generation plasma. . . WOW!!!

Not everone will spend 5 grand (bust out retail) for a TV but Samsung and Panasonic have very close runner's up for much much less money. . .

PLASMA!!!
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I hope to have a Pioneer Elite plasma one day, but for now I'm happy with my 42" Panasonic 60u plasma. It has an amazing picture quality even for being a 720p set. My friends think it is a 1080p set after coming over and watching it.
I prefer LCD for computer monitors; but for movies only plasma for me.
I didn't like RP LCD (screen door effect), or earlier DLP's (rainbow effect), although I have seen a few nice LED DLP's lately.
 
LCruiser122 said:
I have LCD hiDef tv (720p) but I like the color and smoothness of plasma better but have always been told to stay away from plasma. I think I'm gonna get a 40 - 42" plasma (most likely Samsung) for my den / office soon.
I'll be buying another HD tv soon after, probably 50 - 53". The 53" ish one will go in the living room. Not sure if I'll go LCD or plasma there. A little harder to control the light in that room.
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If you're looking at a 42" plasma then I strongly recommend looking at the Panasonic sets. Amazing picture quality for good price. Just look up the reviews on Panasonic plasmas on amazon.com or avforum.com
 
Gonna be either a component video triad, or HDMI. No other choices if you want HD...unless you're going to buy converters on each end to run Cat 5 in between.

And, if you're going to try to do 1080p, HDMI is the only game in town, afaik.
 
One thing to remember about Plasma TV's.

They need to be burn't in for the first 1,000 hours with the first 100 being critical. There are about as many ways to do this as there are opinions but for the most part do not display black bars or leave the display showing any stationary images for the first 100 hours at least. Some put noise on the display from a channel that doesn't come in for several over night periods. Remember break-in includes on and off sessions. The TV needs to come back to room temp before restarting.

Google "Plasma Screen Burn" and you will find scoodles of info. . .
 
mulester7 said:
... I want to use between my upscaling-to-1080 DVD player, and a new plasma TV, 40 feet away?....(will probably have to buy a 50 foot something).....
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You might be in trouble there Ronnie. . . AFAIK HDMI cables are kinda critical about their lengths. I'd check first before spending any money to get-r-done. . .
 
gyusher said:
One thing to remember about Plasma TV's.

They need to be burn't in for the first 1,000 hours with the first 100 being critical. There are about as many ways to do this as there are opinions but for the most part do not display black bars or leave the display showing any stationary images for the first 100 hours at least. Some put noise on the display from a channel that doesn't come in for several over night periods. Remember break-in includes on and off sessions. The TV needs to come back to room temp before restarting.

Google "Plasma Screen Burn" and you will find scoodles of info. . .
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IMO, I think any reasonable use of the TV will be fine with no problems.

There is one thing to do though in all cases and that is to turn off the typical factory "torch mode" that has all the settings cranked up to make the set stand out in the showroom.

Turn off that "torch mode", dial in the picture to something approximating normal, and you're good to go.
 
For the most part and if you are going to use the Plasma display for a normal TV you are fine just dialing down the brightness and contrast (especially the contrast).

That said however if you watch a lot of 2:35 or wider movies with blavk bars on top and bottom or if you are watching 4:3 shows like "I Love Lucy" etc make sure to "Zoom" the display till the black bars go away for the first few hundred hours then use it as you like.. . .
 
** I've been a videophile for most of my life. There is no comparison.

Plasma will always have a better picture, contrast ratio, black levels along with countless other things.
The only drawback is a shorter lamp life(gas life, if you will), but it's not enough to make a true videophile stray.
I mean, whats worth more to you; 50-60,000 hours of the best qulaity picture or 70-80,000 hours of average?:scratch2:

As with anything, do your homework, know your specs, take care of it and a plasma will never stear you wrong.
Now with the price differences becoming less & less every year,
don't short change yourself. There is a Plasma waiting out there for you. :thmbsp:
 
Panasonic and Vizio plasma panels are rated at 100,000 hours now, half-bright at 60,000 hours, that's a long time!!
 
I was under the impression that the stated life was the half-brightness point. In other words, if the panel (at least with Panasonics) says 100,000 hours, that is the time to half-brightness.

BTW, 100,000 hours is more than 11 years of operation at 24 hours per day, 365 days per year.
 
I have a Panasonic Plasma 720p 42 inch set that I've owned for three years and a top of the line Sony XBR 1080p LCD 52 inch, that I purchased last year. The Sony costed me three times the price of the Panasonic. The Sony is our living room set. I use the 42 inch plasma in my family room, for games(Wii) and movies.

Between the two sets, I prefer the Plasma over the LCD. I like the color reproduction and lack of motion blur on the plasma better. The Sony XBR's are supposed to be one of the best LCD's for dealing with montion blur, but I can tell you that even though it has improved, it is still not as good as plasma.

I also have never had a problem with screen burn in on my plasma, even though we use the Wii regularly.

I purchased my LCD mostly because I wanted the best of both worlds, but I am already thinking of my next set and it's probably going to be a 58 inch Panasonic 1080p Plasma.
 
mulester7 said:
.....Gentlemen, I appreciate your inputs more than you know....here's what I just ordered, along with wall-mount brackets that will tilt forward 15 degrees....there's 6-inch wide detachable speakers on both ends I will probably leave when I don't use the sound-system for audio....(yes, that actually happened back in about 2003)....I didn't order it from this place, it's just a great picture....(double-click on the small picture)....I'm excited.....

http://www.wwstereo.com/#/ecommerce/store/TV/10/144240//
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:thmbsp::thmbsp:
you will not be disappointed in that tv.
I'm jealous. When can I come over and watch a movie on that monster plasma?
 
That should be one awesome TV!!

I have only one question....is that outfit an authorized distributor of Pioneer? Just in case....?
 
Great choice! Isnt that the model that won product of the year in Sound and Vision magazine 2 years in a row?
You went all out and have probably close to the best TV around.....count me as jealous too!
 
whoaru99 said:
I was under the impression that the stated life was the half-brightness point. In other words, if the panel (at least with Panasonics) says 100,000 hours, that is the time to half-brightness.

BTW, 100,000 hours is more than 11 years of operation at 24 hours per day, 365 days per year.
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I always thought that too until a friend at Costco said that wasn't the case, I checked the Panasonic FAQ's, sure enough 60k is the half life; Panasonic Plasma FAQ's

Panasonic plasma TVs have a projected life of 60,000 hours before they're only half as bright as when they were new. That's 20+ years at 7 hours a day (which is the average daily viewing time per U.S. household).
 
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