Any clear winner???

[3kitty]

Luxman help please - L-450 Integrated?

Edit - Could those of you who love and know the Luxman sound describe what it is about it that you like? I read over and over...."That great Luxman sound".

And does this L-450 deliver that?

Thanks.

Original question was -

Pioneer SA-6800 Integrated vs Luxman L-450 Integrated

Always hear about the Luxman sound....and admittedly don't know what that means!

The little I can find on the Luxman is that it is clearly not one of their better sounding amps - thin I believe one person said.

....and real wood (Pioneer) vs vinyl wrapped (Luxman).

If you had access to these 2 amps and both were the same shape and the same price, what would you choose and why?

Thanks!!!

 

[sixthday]

Luxman is considered as a higher tier then pioneer in general.

 

[centexguy99]

I have had both and for the same price would go with the Luxman. I don't think it is even close. Do remember though, both are old enough to need recaps and adjustments and might not be performing at their best.

 

[luxmaster]

I cant speak about the L-450 but I have the 480 is a wonderful sounding amp.
Nice warm sounding with smooth even bass. Not too punchy and the highs aren't to sharp. Can't speak for that particular Pioneer but then again I am bias to Luxman and I do own a few Pioneer amps myself.

 

[3kitty]

I cant speak about the L-450 but I have the 480 is a wonderful sounding amp.
Nice warm sounding with smooth even bass. Not too punchy and the highs aren't to sharp. Can't speak for that particular Pioneer but then again I am bias to Luxman and I do own a few Pioneer amps myself.

Thanks - I have read exactly that about the 480....but those same individuals said the 450 didn't stack up to those same attributes - but even if that is true it might still out perform the SA-6800.

Appreciate the feed back....any other thoughts or experience with these two amps still greatly appreciated.

 

[ggregg]

Was this one specific 450, or 450's in general? I've really never heard a bad Luxman. I compare their sound to Yamaha, with a better bottom end. Even the dinky L-210 I had was a sweetheart and would pull enough amps to dim the display light with the bass, yet still be crystal clear.

 

[3kitty]

There is one for sale locally.....looks to be in very nice nic!
....and I own and use the SA-6800.

So was just looking for insight as to whether the L-450 would be an "upgrade" or not?
And what kind of sound signature the Luxman had?

Thanks.

 

[Baron K Rool]

That Pioneer is a highly unspectacular unit, compared to a lot of things. Not recommended in any context.

 

[3kitty]

I've changed the question a little - please see post #1.

Thanks.