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Anybody else ever have this happen?

Retro Stereo

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Won an auction last night with a quick BIN on a rare Pioneer piece. The seller sent me an e-mail stating it wasn't meant to be a BIN auction, he apologized for the inconvenience and said he was re-listing right away, which he did, and he then told me to bid on it.

Well, I wasn't out any money, so I just blew it off as everyone makes mistakes. I then get this e-mail this morning from someone else who won one of the same guy's BIN auctions with the same story. Weird huh?

Oh, by the way, I'm not whining about it, just curious to see if this has happened to anyone else, and what their response might have been?



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This has happened to me once in ten years, and here's what I think: Sounds to me like the seller uses BIN to test the market...if someone pulls the trigger, as you did, he renegs because he figures he can get more.

When I contacted eBay, they said doing so is against its rules. They researched it and eventually suspended the seller. That was five or six years ago.
 
I suspect he found out that he undervalued his item. Yes it has happened to me and the seller explained that he had been given a list of prices and sipmply screwed up when he set up the auctions.
Like you I just let it go, not worth the hassle and it seemed an honest mistake on his part.
 
Not the behavior of an ethical seller. Even the first time. The seller made a mistake okay, but should live up to his/her responsibility.
Somehow I can almost hear the crying from the seller if the buyer mistakenly bid much to high and wanted to back out after winning the item.

I would never ever play in his/her ballpark again.

Bruhl
 
If you have the time, "pinch" the seller, you won the item in a legal binding manner, make ebay enforce their own rules. Too many people just take the doormat aproach and "let it go", that's why there are still so many scams like this going on.
 
reminds me of the time i won a empire 698 t/t with a bin of $10.ebay didnt do squat to make him live up to his end of the deal in fact i didnt even get 1 email back from ebay concerning the matter after sending them about 6.
 
Okay, well I filed a report with that auction place and we'll see how it turns out. If this is a regular habit of this guy, it'll probably be worse for him than if it wasn't. As a matter of fact, the results might end up being just a training session for the seller according to some of the pseudo-solutions I saw.



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The really bizzarre deal is, another one of these same rare items just ended at $12 over what my BIN purchase was supposed to be!

Go figure.... :scratch2:





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Since eBay won't force a seller to sell, there is little you can do, anyway.

Of course they wont' force the sale.. They got money from that "mess up" and will get money for the real sell....so long as they are getting their commission, they don't G.A.F... one of the reasons I don't like to use e-bay other than checking ended auctions for prices.. The place is a scammers dream land, andd e-bay doesn't care..
 
If you sell stuff you should put that seller on your blocked bidders list.
Some may retaliate buy bidding on your stuff to not pay and leave you a negative.

Just a thought. I block problem childen at times.

Rob
 
Please, let's not turn this into another "I hate eBay" thread! :thumbsdn:

When you handle that many sales a day (millions), nothing is going to be perfect. I'm sure eBay would love to NOT have problems, assholes, and scammers running wild on their auction site, but let's be realistic, that will NEVER be possible. The best they'll ever be able to do is to try and keep it down to a bare minimum, (like 98%). With all the customer service polls they've been conducting over the last year, it can't all be a waste of time! I actually even talked to a "real" customer service representative today, now that is eBay progress as far as I'm concerned. All but probably about 10 of my 500 eBay transactions have gone off without a hitch (some were just minor hitches). By my calculations, that's about 98%, or in my other calculations, not much different than any of my other dealings "outside" of eBay. Problem is, as usual, we just get to hear about the transactions that "suck" because it's not news if they'd all be "good" transactions.




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If you sell stuff you should put that seller on your blocked bidders list.
Some may retaliate buy bidding on your stuff to not pay and leave you a negative.

Just a thought. I block problem childen at times.

Rob


Rob,
Good advice, and I was doing just that (adding him to my blocked bidders list) while I was filing the report! :yes:




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it can happen once as far as I'm concerned, if someone just doesn't understand what they're doing. But to have it happen twice.. I agree with others here, he's just testing the waters.

Used to be the 'Bay kept a hefty backlog of completed auctions. It was easier to figure the current market, as trends emerge with sufficient data. Now they just don't give enough. Of course, you can keep your own data, if you are really interested (and sometimes I am). So in lieu of doing some actual work this guy is fishing right from the farm instead of finding a good stream...
 
The place is a scammers dream land, andd e-bay doesn't care..
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It's also still the best game in town and the place most of us are likely to score the stuff we want at the price we want to pay.

There's a learning curve to be sure. Research seller's feedback. Don't just look at the numbers, read the comments and let them be the "character reference" for that seller. If the comments make it sound like the kind of seller you would want to do business with, then proceed with "awareness".

The best advice i can offer to anyone looking to buy on ebay is to check the feedback, make sure the comments you judge a seller by have been left by other seasoned ebayers.

Don't automatically discount sellers that have a few negatives, read the comments, decide in your mind what makes sense. Many times negatives get thrown around in haste when a little communication would have otherwise resolved any issues.

If something smells bad, avoid it and wait for another.

Seek the advice of members of this board if you cannot decide on your own. If you're afraid to draw undue attention to an item, PM a member that often posts in D&S.

Some of us have been active at ebay for a very long time, pushing 10 years myself. I've gotten to know of many good sellers of audio as well as other goods and don't hesitate to recommend them when it's appropriate.

Just my .02 y'all understand..............................
 
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