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Anybody have a Classic Mopar/IHC with the Original Carter Thermo-Quad?

Big Tuna

Too Much Power!
Hello my fellow motorheads. I just wanted to throw this out here to let everyone know that I have vast experience and knowledge with rebuilding, tuning, and adjusting the Carter Thermo-Quad. I have been using/tuning TQ's for better part of 20 years now and I know them inside and out. I have taken ones that were left for dead and turned them into great runners. So, if you own a classic Mopar/IHC that has a Thermo-Quad, and you are looking for help/advice, I will gladly provide my assistance to fellow AKers. Purely complimentary.

A little History: TQ's began life as a race carb in 1969, then the first factory iteration to house the TQ was the 1971 Dodge Demon 340. My brother had a black one with a 4 Speed on the floor when I was little. The 340 TQ equipped Demon had a faster Lap time than the mighty 440 Six pack! '72 saw them being implemented on all the 440 Big Blocks, and the HP 360's. The center body was a unique "phenolic resin" which had a particular advantage for keeping fuel cooler for better atomization. There were many different calibration ratios, and two different primary throttle bore sizes, the smaller 1 & 3/16" was used on the small blocks, while the larger primary 1 & 1/4" was reserved for big blocks and HP applications. Many have called the center body "plastic" which in part, it is, but that is a rather crude representation of it, since it is much tougher than ordinary plastic. It is Fiberglass re-inforced to add strength. Through the years the TQ was used and abused, and suffered it's share of mishandling by those who were unfamiliar with them. the final year a Thermo-Quad was available on a production vehicle was 1985, and by that time it had sealed Idle mixture screws, and was not tuner friendly.
 
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hey Big Tuna, glad to hear of your 'helping hand'......another old motor head hear as well. Thought I'd share a pic of my old '70 T/A Challenger, while it came with the infamous 'six pack' I later swaped out the stock setup and went with a Weiand / Thermo Quad combo. It just worked and was easier to tune with the Racer Brown cam that I was running at the time.

Pic was taken 37 years ago
 
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Those were the carbs to have in the day. I had three up till about 7 years ago and just gave them away not having a V-8 Dodge anymore. I had one on my 360 that I put in my van. Loved the Dodge van in its day also. Theres nothing like Mopar.
 
hey Big Tuna, glad to hear of your 'helping hand'......another old motor head hear as well. Thought I'd share a pic of my old '70 T/A Challenger, while it came with the infamous 'six pack' I later swaped out the stock setup and went with a Weiand / Thermo Quad combo. It just worked and was easier to tune with the Racer Brown cam that I was running at the time.

Pic was taken 37 years ago
Wow, Just WOW! What a beauty!:thmbsp:
 
Man, my crazy cousin (who was actually named John Hancock, no lie), had a '66 Ford pickup, with a 460 Police Interceptor engine shoehorned in it. On top of the 460, lived a 1000cfm Thermoquad. Was the only carb he could get to tune out properly, and not bog, on that engine. In fact, the throttle response was so extreme, that the problem he had was keeping the truck pointed in a straight line, when he punched it... :D

Regards,
Gordon.
 
Love old Mopars with V8 engines. Our main vehicles with one is a '69 Dodge Coronet Wagon with a 340. And it really is a runner. And loves to eat Camaro and Mustang. We also have one on our 1976 Dodge Polara Police Package. Superb carburetor, the best performance carb ever made in my opinion.
 
I drove a '73 Duster with a 340 and a TQ on top...never liked that carb...nothing but problems. It did sound good when your foot was through the floor!
 
Great stories Fellas! Here is a pic of my Elephant V-345 International with a TQ on top. I rebuilt this one 13 years ago and it still runs beautifully. No gurgling, no hesitation, no sputtering, no internal leaking. I am charging the battery ATM and I am going to shoot a quick video of the TQ doing some throttle sweeps so it's mighty roar can be heard. I scanned youtube for hours and could not find a single video of anybody doing a open carb flog to hear the roar up close and personal. I guess everybody's afraid of a backfire, lol! :para: I guess I shouldn't say that or I'll jinx myself, huh? :para:
 

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Here is my vid of my Scout if you wanna listen to that big TQ roar. Sorry for the time delay as I was by myself and I had to start camera, then go around to driver side, and squeeze in there. FF to about 1:50 if you want to hear just the roaring. :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R89z-GHRIBY
 
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I run a Holley 750 Double Pumper on my 340 Duster at the drag strip...it just gives me faster ET's. BUT, on the street I HAVE to run my Thermo-Quad because of that awesome roar when the secondaries kick in!!

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I REALLY wanted to put a Thermo-quad on my 55 Chevy, but couldn't afford one.

With all due respects, Big Tuna, it's a little humorous for me to see the words "classic" and "International" in the same sentence!:D

Some friends of our family had four or five in their farming operation, and I think I learned most of my swear words watching them work on them.:thmbsp:
 
I had a '58 International pickup with a 390 Ford in it. The truck came with a straight six/ three on the tree set up. Dad found a '64 Galaxy that had been rolled, but the engine and C5 tranny were still good. So he put the engine in the Row Binder hooked to the posi-trak that was geared for a little old six. It was a real sleeper, and dead reliable for many years after the swap.

Sorry, no TQ story, only classic International.
 
That's cool Jeff. I knew a fella many years ago with a Ford P/U he used for a plow truck. It had a 390 in it, for the life of me I can't remember the year, but I remember him telling me that Ford only put the 390 in their P/Ups for a couple years. It ran like a top and it sure sounded sweet.
 
Hey! New guy here in dire need of answers. I have a running 440 with thermoquad that I was wanting to mod for horsepower. I was searching online for info when I found this thread so I figure this would be a great question for you guys. What do you think would be best? 440 thermoquad or 440 six pack? I actually have a second thermoquad so if i went that option, could i run both like the old GM setup with dual 4bbl? Would there be any benefit to that? Stroke it or stock 440? It just kinda fell into my lap for helping a guy tear down a barn it was sitting in. I figure I could build it out cheaper than I could buy one. I'm thinking 350-600 hp range would be awesome but I don't want to build something that will need constant rebuilding because it wears out to quick like large strokers. Just curious since everybody on here is closer to being a pro than I am.
 
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Hello captaindye. welcome to AK, you should visit the AK introductions forum and introduce yourself to the community. It really depends on the way you set up your motor, camshaft, lobe separation, overlap, lift, duration, where you degree it at in relation to the crank, a pair of Edelbrock aluminum RPM heads, Piston type-preferably domed and coated, headers, valve springs, compression ratio greater than 10.5 to 1, full length headers, max wedge valvetrain, oiling upgrades and lots more stuff. what type of intake is the dual 4 bbl, tunnel ram, single plane, dual plane, high rise? You can acheive 500+ HP with the mods I just described. And definitely, two TQ's is better than one, but remember, if you run two, you'll need to utilize the rear one for idling, and close off the front one's screws because the front barrels of the rear one are centrally located, giving equal idle disbursement plus easier starting and smoother off idle throttle response.
Hey! New guy here in dire need of answers. I have a running 440 with thermoquad that I was wanting to mod for horsepower. I was searching online for info when I found this thread so I figure this would be a great question for you guys. What do you think would be best? 440 thermoquad or 440 six pack? I actually have a second thermoquad so if i went that option, could i run both like the old GM setup with dual 4bbl? Would there be any benefit to that? Stroke it or stock 440? It just kinda fell into my lap for helping a guy tear down a barn it was sitting in. I figure I could build it out cheaper than I could buy one. I'm thinking 350-600 hp range would be awesome but I don't want to build something that will need constant rebuilding because it wears out to quick like large strokers. Just curious since everybody on here is closer to being a pro than I am.
 
My brother had a 71 Duster 340 with the thermo quad. Didn't think he was going to like it.
But after getting to know the carb,and how to tune it,he liked it. Didn't get as hot at the track as the avs carter's,didn't have the problem with vapor lock,
like the AFB's,or the avs carbs. I guess the phenolic plastic bowl did work.
Box stock off the showroom floor,it ran a best of 14.33 at 97 mph.

After fine tune on the carb,and changing the weights and advance springs
in the distributor,got it to run consistently in the high 13.90's at 102.
 
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