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Anyone Familiar With the Audio Technica ART Series of Cartridges

Mister Pig

Pigamus Maximus
In the process of shopping for a new cartridge, and came across a low hour ART 7 on a site I frequent. I know I swore off used cartridges, but this one looks to be quite nice and low hours. So I sent an email off, and see what info I get back.

In the meantime I checked out other AT cartridges at a few sellers, and noticed that there is now an ART 9 available, but its very spendy compared to what I can get the 7 for.

Anyone familiar with either of these cartridges, and perhaps know what the practical differences between the ART 7 and 9 are?

Regards
Mister Pig
 
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Darn! I was hoping you had some info for me! I believe the 7 was a Japanese domestic only product at the time, but the 9 seems to be an export. I just wonder if it is one of those anniversary or limited edition type models, which a small production run but no significant improvements over its previous version. Actually the construction of the 7 is almost mind blowing....it sounds very interesting....

Regards
Mister Pig
 
I've been saving up my pennies for one of these.

search for posts on audiogon by Dgarretson, he has one and nice things to say about it.
It has a non-magnetic core, which is supposed to have some advantages over typical magnetic core Moving Coil carts. However, it also has a much lower output of 0.12mV

In a number of ways, it is like the Denon DL-S1 (which happens to have an output of 0.15mV). If you have a phono stage or SUT capable of driving this low output, it supposedly is clearly better than the Denon DL-S1, to paraphrase the owner making the comment.

High end Audio technica cartridges are underrated I would say, as they may not have the "prestige" that some more boutique brands may carry, but they certainly make some competitive stuff for the prices they charge. The AT-OC9 II/III are great bang for your buck.

If we are to believe the description on the Audio Technica product page, it claims that the ART7's design improves upon the AT50ANV in a few ways, and that is a $1500 cart.
 
Would have thought there would be a bit more chatter and shared info out there on these AT cartridges.....

Regards
Mister Pig
 
Although named ART9 and ART7, the ART9 is the "flagship of magnetic core type cartridges", which the ART7 is not in the same category as.

I have also read that the ART7 is a better performer than the ART9 (due mostly to its non-magnetic core advantages?), but I may just be regurgitating unfounded hearsay
 
Reviving this old thread to see if any others are using one of the AT ART series carts.

I've got an ART-9 working through break in and fine tuning now and curious if anyone has loading or VTA suggestions. I've seen recommendations for "slightly tail up" and loading from 100 to 1000 ohms...

So far it sounds very good, even though the compliance/mass on my tonearm give it a resonance between 7 and 8 Hz.

Rumor is that these carts take up to 100 hours to fully break in. We'll see. So far my foot is happily tapping, which is always a good sign!
 
Reviving this old thread to see if any others are using one of the AT ART series carts.

I've got an ART-9 working through break in and fine tuning now and curious if anyone has loading or VTA suggestions. I've seen recommendations for "slightly tail up" and loading from 100 to 1000 ohms...

So far it sounds very good, even though the compliance/mass on my tonearm give it a resonance between 7 and 8 Hz.

Rumor is that these carts take up to 100 hours to fully break in. We'll see. So far my foot is happily tapping, which is always a good sign!

How does it compare to other cartridges in your same system?? Sorry I dont have any experience with it to offer loading or VTA recommendations, but following this topic with interest
 
How does it compare to other cartridges in your same system?? Sorry I dont have any experience with it to offer loading or VTA recommendations, but following this topic with interest

Here's the Cliff's Notes comparing a Dynavector Ruby to the AT ART-9 in the same setup:
DV: Sharper transients and more drama, but compared to the ART it ultimately sounds like it's trying too hard...
ART-9: Better musical integration and balance, loses no detail, and brings more emotional content to the relationship...

And the long version:

The direct comparison I can make is to a Dynavector Ruby. I had the DV for two years. (I really liked it and still do!)

In the early going, here's what I'm hearing -

The Dynavector hits beginning transients (like drum strikes) harder, but lets go of instrumental decay (like room ambience or note fades) more quickly than the ART-9. Music with the Dynavector also seems to be more dramatic. I think the percussion and bass drive this impression, but the DV also has a forward presentation in music from the extreme right and left channels.

By comparison, the ART at first sounded thinner, but more balanced. The more I listen, the more I like the balance. With the ART the bass is very much there, but in a less prominent role compared to the DV. The entire midrange also seems to be better with the ART. Guitars have more resonance, Hammond organs have more mass, kick drums and toms have more body, and cymbal strikes have more shimmer compared to the DV. The ART seems to pull the vocals forward in the center and also seems to extend the left/right width by 6-9 inches. The sound from the ART is more substantial and lifelike compared to the DV. The DV compared to the ART 9 seems to be trying really hard to do what the ART does effortlessly.

I'm still into early listening, and haven't put the DV back in for an A/B comparison, but the ART sounds better integrated than the DV. I listened to some tracks tonight that had some syncopation that never seemed to mesh through the DV, but with the ART these songs snapped together without losing any of the tension or detail. Can a cartridge affect pacing and timing? Seems so.

Dislikes? A couple early things - the center image from the ART is shifted about 10 inches to the right and the overall height of the music is lower in the room, but that may be due to speaker positioning that optimized how the 30 year old DV sounded. I'd also like to get a bit more POP! from the transients and am hoping to get that as the suspension opens up. Right now I'd describe the ART as refined compared to the Dynavector, but at the same time, there's more emotional content coming from the ART. The Rolling Stones sound rowdy through the DV, for instance, but with the ART they sound dangerous.

Setup and tonearm matching? On paper, the ART-9 looked like it might not be a fit for my 9.5g SME tonearm, and the HiFi News test record shows resonance to be between 7 and 8 hz - at the high end of marginal. I've played my most warped record with no issues and cannot hear anything detrimental at this point. Both the DV and ART-9 tracked the cannon shots on Telarc's 1812 Overture with no issue. I'm playing it with the tail 1mm up, tracking at 1.8 grams and loaded at 150 ohms.

AND - while trying to figure out how to end this long post, the sound raised up about 2 feet and the left/right boundaries extended another 6 inches! I'm looking at the sound of a saxophone sitting neatly outside the far boundary of my left speaker with my stupid jaw hanging open...Never had that happen to me before.

So this one's a keeper, and break-in is a thing.
 
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Update after a week of play-

Spent some time tonight with a 5mm pencil lead and a dial protractor setting azimuth (ugh, what a finicky chore!). But success! My left/right imbalance seems to be corrected.

With about 20 hours of listening time, I am noticing great texture to acoustic stringed instruments. Ry Cooder sounds fantastic! Is it suspension break-in, psychoacoustics, or listener acclimation? Feel free to credit the cause of your choice.

One other observation - with the Dynavector harmonica solos would bring the dog running to me in an agitated state, but with the ART, she stays slumbering wherever she happens to be.

Still no apparent issues with low frequency resonance from the arm/compliance figures, but my house sits on a concrete slab, so footfalls aren't an issue for me.

I like this cartridge a lot and kind of wish I still had my OC9 to compare for "house sound" As I recall, the OC9 was as detailed as the Dynavector, but a bit more sterile. I remember trying to load the OC9 at 60 ohms at one point to tame the edge...No such issues with the ART. I'm still happy at 150 ohm, but may play with that as time goes by.
 
And after reading up on the Art 9 for 3 hrs., I placed my order. I have 3 tables with eff mass ranging from 7- 15.5. Should be able to make this unit happy.
 
I recently acquired an AT 50ANV that the previous owner had the stylus fall off. I will be sending it to Soundsmith for service. In a couple of months I should have a very interesting cartridge on hand. This one was only a year old and I got all the packaging. Should be a decent addition to the cartridge stable.

Regards
Mister Pig
 
And I thought rolling tubes was expensive. This will be my 3rd LOMC. I need to put the brakes on for a while. Reviews on this are fantastic. Hope the rest of my gear is up to it.
 
Would have thought there would be a bit more chatter and shared info out there on these AT cartridges.....

Regards
Mister Pig
Enough chatter to convince me to pull the trigger on an ART9. Very tempted by the ART7 also...
 
Enough chatter to convince me to pull the trigger on an ART9. Very tempted by the ART7 also...

Hope you like it! I put my Dynavector Ruby back in play last week, and it was enjoyable and fine, but the ART-9 brings enough extra detail that I put back to stay.
 
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