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Anyone recognizes this .. NEC? Turntable?

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I'm getting an offer for this turntable, the vendor says it's a NEC turntable. I've asked him for the right model (he says the logo is missing from the wood cabinet) but while I wait.. Any of you recognize this? Looks quite good at least. Thanks!

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Hi mythless, very interesting, didn't know about these CEC brand, but yep indeed they look much like this one.
 
Now he says it's a NEC nsp5350e but I can't find any info on the web.. Odd.. Will ask for a picture from the back.
 
CEC had a few turntables under its own name but for the most part they built for many other major and not so major brands. They were so common and so well built for their price points they were almost like Toyota was for cars, if Toyota had built for other brands that is.

Anyway, it does look pretty decent and tables like it are generally good value.
 
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Montycat said:
Here's one that is CEC made that looks a lot like it, the Marantz 6100. The 6110 is also very close.

http://vintage-turntable.com/marantz-6100.html
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Wow Montycat this looks like a winner. Great find (and great sight of yours) ! It almost looks the same... The vendor says it's belt drive (same as this) and that he found the "missing logo plate" and that it says NEC apparently (he confused CEC for NEC?) Or maybe it really is a NEC. Odd, but I might continue with the operation as it's in a good price point and close to my place.

Here's another pic from the article.

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Hey @Montycat ! Yours was a kind of prediction as I finally got around to buying a 6150 Marantz Turntable (truly mint). The NEC is still on sale and it's kinda tempting though I know it's an entry level TT, looks fine and sort of a deal. I got one more picture of the back, now. No info around the internet.

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Yes, this NEC turntable is actually built by CEC in Japan. This is one of the most popular rebranded CEC belt drive models. And is a very good performer. Usually simple and reliable.
 
KentTeffeteller said:
Yes, this NEC turntable is actually built by CEC in Japan. This is one of the most popular rebranded CEC belt drive models. And is a very good performer. Usually simple and reliable.
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Great. I will upload better pictures if I get to buy it. Trying to get a better deal without the needle perhaps.
 
Andrew ... I'm staring at one of the Pro-Linear AT-1600 turntables I have right now ... pretty close for the tonearm isn't it? ... base is different, cueing platform is different, no lateral weight on the NEC ... otherwise even the tonearm rest and cueing lever are the same.

For the OP, Pro-Linear is a company based in Vancouver that stretches back to early 70's. House brand stuff. CEC-built
 
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Andrew ... I'm staring at one of the Pro-Linear AT-1600 turntables I have right now ... pretty close for the tonearm isn't it? ... base is different, cueing platform is different, no lateral weight on the NEC ... otherwise even the tonearm rest and cueing lever are the same.

For the OP, Pro-Linear is a company based in Vancouver that stretches back to early 70's. House brand stuff. CEC-built
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Yes, pretty similar.

I think the way CEC worked was with a selection of "options" you could pick if you wanted to custom design your own. You could pick the tonearm from a range of models, the plinth from suspended or unsuspended, the plinth covering, cue lever from a few shapes, push button vs lever speed change, and so on. With enough options you could differentiate yourself somewhat and if you did it well with a good name and a bit of start-up capital you could have a "pop-up" stereo company.

Alpage/Alpine did this with cassette decks. They built them for a bunch of companies and often the only differences were postion of the headphone jack or on/off button...plus the name.

Other industries have followed suit. Bicycle companies, for example, can pick their frames and components out of catalogues to "design" their bike. I've seen some of those catalogues, about 3 inches thick.
 
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In the OEM Japanese turntable world, the big 3 manufacturers were CEC, Fujiya Audio, and Micro Seiki. Montycat has a fine idea of how those companies worked. They also had in house design and engineering available, or could manufacture a design already provided.
 
From Montycat's description I have a vision of the 'door-to-door' turntable salesman of the 1970's ... a chain-smoking Japanese gentleman with horn-rimmed glasses, brylcreamed hair, polyester suit sporting a tie about 4-inches wide and carrying a large briefcase .... maybe with teeny-tiny turntable salesman samples.

Over on Canuckaudiomart an old thread was just resurrected discussing the NEC AUP-7000FE:

http://www.canuckaudiomart.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=29530&start=30

This is the one I had:

http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/index.php?threads/nec-authetic-series-aup-7000fe-turntable.341498/

In the case of this model the motor is Fujiya Audio so I suspect so is the whole turntable.
 
Hi guys, this story about the "base" manufacturers is way interesting. Didn't know a bit about it.
THANKS A LOT for the feedback. You know what? I finally bought the TT! :D

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Got a little discount, the table is quite mint (the wood!!) specially after a little polishing, but the needle is quite horrible (a technician told me it was extracted from another tt) and that it seems an imitation of the Shure m70b, so I'll have to locate a good one to replace it.

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It's not an imitation, it's really a Shure M70, just has a different coding to make it seem as it's different.
 
I think thats a pretty sharp deck. Good for you. Worst comes to worst, you can usually find replacement styluses for old Shures at reasonable cost so don't pitch that bugger.
 
Bob in WI said:
I think thats a pretty sharp deck. Good for you. Worst comes to worst, you can usually find replacement styluses for old Shures at reasonable cost so don't pitch that bugger.
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Yep I finally decided to keep the needle for now, at least my old copy of Sticky Fingers it did quite well. It took quite a bit of volume on the sansui amp but sounds fine!
 
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