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As a Bozak fan I found this ad interesting !!

Rybeam

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I found this interesting and satisfying in a way as a fan of the Bozak sound. I do own two pairs of small Bowers and Wilkins which are very impressive. The picture has the B&Ws on top of what looks like a nice pair of Bozak 302.



Cheers all, just food for thought is all !

As the ad link will not last, this is what is stated :

Great unmodified Bowers and Wilkins 802 Series 80

Grills are a little used but still represent well

These sound great, I am just going back to my old Bozaks. No room for these. They should be loved.

 

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The Bozaks roll off the highs at 11,000 Hz or so if they have the Y metal tweeters. If they have the paper tweeters more like 9500 HZ. The paper mids and tweeters are known to deteriorate quickly and should be replaced by the B-209 Bc mid and the 200 Y or 200 Z tweeters. In either case the crossovers will need to be updated . See the Bozak group on Face book for the answers. Ken will have the answers for you.

The B&W is a much superior speaker. But I personally don't like the voicing B&W was using at the time. They should also be on the floor for the smoothest and lowest reaching bass extension. The tweeters should be at seated ear height.
 
The Bozaks roll off the highs at 11,000 Hz or so if they have the Y metal tweeters. If they have the paper tweeters more like 9500 HZ. The paper mids and tweeters are known to deteriorate quickly and should be replaced by the B-209 Bc mid and the 200 Y or 200 Z tweeters. In either case the crossovers will need to be updated . See the Bozak group on Face book for the answers. Ken will have the answers for you.

The B&W is a much superior speaker. But I personally don't like the voicing B&W was using at the time. They should also be on the floor for the smoothest and lowest reaching bass extension. The tweeters should be at seated ear height.

I dunno. I think these- specifically, the 802-80 and 802 V2 - before the Nautilus line- were the best voiced B&W speakers I've ever encountered. And I sold them new, so I got quite familiar with them. They're the last vintage of B&W that I can listen to long term without listening fatigue (primarily from excessive brightness). They may not have the absolute bass extension of their larger brothers (the 801s), but they make up for that with significantly better transient response in the low and mid frequencies.

They do need to be on the floor. If he's listening to them at that height, he's leaning out the bass response in a way that was never intended by the designers.

Now, I do REALLY like the Bozak 302- especially with a proper implementation of the Tobin crossover mod. IMHO, they are the best-overall sounding large-volume production speakers built in or before the late 1960s, in fact. But, the B&W 802-80 is a vastly more sophisticated, better balanced, better imaging speaker. And for $2500 dollar retail price- back in 1987- they SHOULD be better!

Regards,
Gordon.
 
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My favorite speaker at the time that I couldn't afford was the mighty 808 with the two 14 inch woofer two mid stacked above and below the tweeter. This a copy of the owners manual for the 808.
 

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