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AU-555 Restore, and sharing an old technique to debug a noisy channel

AnthonyL

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I scored a non-working AU-555 off Ebay a couple of weeks ago for ~$150. Here's the ebay photo:

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Got it on the bench, right channel is weak, noisy and drifts. I plan on doing a restore anyway, so I ordered replacement caps and transistors from digikey. But I wanted to restore a working unit. Hopefully these steps help others and saves a few of these beauties from the dumpster.

1. Deoxed the F out of all pots and switches. This cleared up the noisiness on volume, mute switch and balance control. Mute switch is odd, it's engaged in the off position. Shouldn't mute on be muted?? As expected I still have a bad right channel.

2. Broke out a super old school technique! A super simple DIY audio probe. This is a great way to find problems in a circuit. To build, hack a 1/4" phono plug, solder a wire with alligator clip to the ring, and slide an ohmmeter probe over the tip. Clip to ground on the unit, then use probe to probe audio at various parts of the circuit. I started at the RCA input, and worked my way to the first transistor that signal hits. For those with the repair manual it's TR-602 and TR-604. Replaced them (They're 2SC458LG) with KSC1845. This thing has so much solder!

3. First test, no audio! Hit the joints again with heat, and bent the lead in line with the PCB trace, solder again. Eureka!

The luck :) Anyway, this thing sounds AMAZING! Even through my much hated Audioengine P-5's, over rated, overpriced garbage -- unless you like the sound of apple ear-buds.

4. The unit was pretty dirty, 40+ years of grime on face plate, cover and knobs. I used soap and water and 0000 steel wool. Now it looks and sounds amazing. The cover still had plastic tape around the corners! I removed it and the faceplate is near perfect now.

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I didn't put the power knob back yet, largely because I will bring this to a friends place who has an oscilloscope, do a recap of the main power amp board, and then bias.

Confession: I wanted a 555 because I really like how it looks, but now am very surprised at how much I like its sound. Very nice low end, subtle graininess in the mids, and nice clear highs. I'll update this post once the restore is finished.

A few questions:

1. The paint on the top metal case is showing signs of age. The paint is spotty, and a couple of narrow scratches have begun to rust. Should I sand and re-paint or leave it is is?

2. If I like how it sounds now, how much improvement can I expect after re-capping? Should I bother doing a full restore?

More to come.
 
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Nice, one of these days I will get my own 555 out for a rebuild, too enamored with my recently restored 2000, and too backed up with other projects to dig it out. Yeah, they do have 'the look' :)
 
Awesome. I've had a couple of 555a's and always wondered about a sound comparison between the two models.

Two schools of thought with recapping obviously - I'm all for shotgunning an replacing all old caps, you will get improvements in performance if not sound, and if you upgrade signal path caps to Silmic's you will get distinct sonic benefits. You can also go crazy and put Super Throughs or Fine Tunes in the power supply - I have used these a couple of times in powersupplies and been very impressed.

Many will say leave the old caps alone, so like I say, opinion differs on this one. If you do elect to do it then an important thing to replace is the old trimmer pots which may not hold values very well.

If you want to go extra crazy you can also upgrade transistors and diodes to new equivalents which can lower the noise floor, improve reliability and sound quality too.

I always also repaint all my keeper amps - its pretty simple and fun to do - sand the metal back with say 100-150 grit, do it again with a finer grit, ensuring you finish off with a wet sand of wet & dry sandpaper of around 400 grit. Dry the lid off with meths, prime it with a good metal primer. Give it a couple of blasts of good topcoat and you are there.
 
Awesome. I've had a couple of 555a's and always wondered about a sound comparison between the two models.

Two schools of thought with recapping obviously - I'm all for shotgunning an replacing all old caps, you will get improvements in performance if not sound, and if you upgrade signal path caps to Silmic's you will get distinct sonic benefits. You can also go crazy and put Super Throughs or Fine Tunes in the power supply - I have used these a couple of times in powersupplies and been very impressed.

Many will say leave the old caps alone, so like I say, opinion differs on this one. If you do elect to do it then an important thing to replace is the old trimmer pots which may not hold values very well.

If you want to go extra crazy you can also upgrade transistors and diodes to new equivalents which can lower the noise floor, improve reliability and sound quality too.

I always also repaint all my keeper amps - its pretty simple and fun to do - sand the metal back with say 100-150 grit, do it again with a finer grit, ensuring you finish off with a wet sand of wet & dry sandpaper of around 400 grit. Dry the lid off with meths, prime it with a good metal primer. Give it a couple of blasts of good topcoat and you are there.

Haven't heard the 555a yet, but was deciding between the 2. I live in an apartment in NYC, so the extra power wasn't as important. But what I really like about this 555 is that it sounds awesome at low levels.

Surprisingly the noise floor is very low already! I can crank this and I hear nothing, no hiss no crackle. I've ordered enough transistors to replace them all, so I might just do it so I don't have to do it later.

The cover will be re-painted, thanks! FInal pics and listening observations to follow.
 
I would go ahead with a recap, the 555 is cap coupled so it would greatly benefit from new caps.

Just got the caps in, most are Silmic II. I'll re-cap, but this sounds so good already I'll be surprised if there's improvement. I wonder if there's a way to measure before and after?
 
ive done a few 555a's and a 777a and without a doubt the 555a 's definitely improve, the 777a i did, i never really got to aquainted with before i redid the caps but she sounds nice!!
 
ive done a few 555a's and a 777a and without a doubt the 555a 's definitely improve, the 777a i did, i never really got to aquainted with before i redid the caps but she sounds nice!!

Fair enough ... caps are in, but waiting on a solder sucker. Did I mention how much solder is on this board!?!?!?@?!
 
I admit now that I was wrong, and I'm sorry! See, I was skeptical on this whole caps degrade with age thing. Very skeptical. I expected to pull these caps and find all within spec (+/1 20%). In fact, many were very far away from where they were supposed to be. Surprised, and wrong -- love it! I've logged all values off the main board, I'll share tomorrow.
 
Ah yes, to cap or not to cap, the never ending discussion. My cap coupled Sansui 2000 really woke up with the change out.
 
I've done complete recaps, with power supply diode upgrades, and trouble prone transistor upgrades to a 1/2dozen 2000A, 3 2000x, and 2 2000's. ALL woke up to varying degrees, the least being very good. CONRADH's updates to the 2000X also work on the 2000A. The 2000 series will usually play outside their watt class and equal or beat a lot of stuff out there in the 50w class for sonics.
 
The AU-555 is a great little amp. Please post the serial number for the database. Click on the link in my signature block.

- Pete
 
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