Audio System Enhancer

[Tinkerbelle]

This thread has already attracted comments from supermods and the forum moderator
http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/showpost.php?p=7510213&postcount=48
http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/showpost.php?p=8170366&postcount=188

Again we have comments entered that possibly trespass or skirt the intent of the forum rules. In TCE, there is no room for any potentially negative conjecture or ambiguous comments. Be clear and specific in the intent of any comments, and be sure they are within forum rules.

Those who drop ambiguous comments are asked to clarify them, otherwise they might be interpreted negatively wrt forum rules.

 

[TerryO]

Earlier I posted the following:

"Or maybe some people are hearing things that others don't."


Attached is a quoted statement that was included by Tinkerbelle (emphasis mine) :

It looks like a reminder is needed for folks to read the forum rules.

NO ONE needs to prove what they hear in this forum. It's in the forum rules.
Actually, no one should need to prove what they hear anywhere on AK. That would be the All Audio, No Attitude thing.

After nearly 40 years of designing and conducting experiments that explore the various aspects of hearing, here are two factors that must always be taken into account:

1. Hearing ability can range from exceptional to pretty darn poor and depending on the enviornment and/or context, it can actually vary even with the same individual.

2. Since joining PNWAS in 1982, we have conducted dozens of carefully controlled listening tests of recordings, audio gear and speakers using SOTA, or near SOTA, gear. A large percentage of those tests and protocols were ones that I designed. As Gary Leonard Koh (CEO, Genesis Loudspeakers) stated on another forum: ..."we invite Terry along to keep us honest."

In the context of my experience and the results of many controlled tests, I stand by my statement.

TerryO

 

[robgmn]

I have not tested these, so this is a general statement on my take of things unproven:
If I try something and notice that it causes a different result than other things do (copper/magnetic bracelets, magnets that go on a fuel line, wooden blocks that support cables, insoles that draw the toxins from my body, spot body fat reduction, etc.), I then look for scientific proof that my experience is based in reality and not created by my own mind.

I'm the type of person who would hate to stand steadfastly behind something based on my personal perceptions, only to find out that there is no possible way my perceptions are correct.

My question as to the scientific testing was to publicly ask if there are others who are like-minded (hence my reference to those who have stated they are skeptics but heard a difference, etc).

 

[datafone]

OK, looking at those responses from post 203 onwards (obviously not to include the post by Tinkerbelle), I'll maybe not wipe AK altogether due to a handful that can't keep to the rules here.
But I will no longer be posting my experiences in this section or any other. I'll stick to very basic comments on very basic things and try and assist in that limited way, if at all.

Obviously I still see Terry and Rob as out of line where the rules are concerned, and have yet to hear 240sx' clarify the part that looks like an issue.

 

[datafone]

Exactly. My point was that as far as testing goes, the vendor has done it and there's no reason to suspect they aren't being honest about results.

OK, you clarified the part of your post that I did not have an issue with, now how about the other part where you counter the first part and also suggest that members on AK could be BS'ing?

"Naturally they could be BS'ing but so could joe schmoe here on AK"

 

[RichPA]

Let's not continue with posts that are about moderation or about other members.

 

[Billfort]

Enough of the personal sparring and 'give me data' attitude! This is NOT the forum for that which is clear if you read the rules but this one pretty much says it all;

We will not be challenging each other to provide proof of anything.

If you have a problem with 'no proof' in this hobby we understand, just don't post it here.

The next poster to continue in this vein in this forum or challenge moderation which is also against the rules, gets some time off from AK.

 

[meles]

Sample In

Well these definitely have an effect on the sound. And try as I might to hear for issues, it seems to be completely positive. I did place one on power cord to Blu Ray player and was less impressed with the effect versus other positions (and it might have been worse.) So, has anyone figured out where these work best? What about inside of components?

On my system, the sound was harmonically improved which I would attribute to a noise floor/blackness of background improvement. At first, you might think their is a blurring effect, but it simply is more impactful sound with greater harmonic detail. This increase in bass texture might sound like a blurring on first take. All this from one night of listening.

My favorite positions so far has been one puck on a pair of interconnects coming into my phono stage from the table and also on interconnect coming into my line stage from phono. For CD Player/Blu Ray 2 channel placing them on the interconnects coming out of the player had big impact. When doing this I had the other disc on the top back of my very small line stage which also had a big impact (five pairs of interconnects within 4 inches of discus). A very magic bean.