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Dude111

Analogue is Awesome
I have all 3 back to the futre movies ON VHS..

I do NOT LIKE DIGITAL MEDIA and sadly the digital master was used on this tape!! (For all 3 movies) -- It doesnt look or sound as good as analog!!!!! (THATS WHY I LIKE VHS SO MUCH)

Does ANYONE KNOW if they ever released this movie ON ANOTHER NON-DIGITAL PLATFORM in its original analog form?? (BETAMAX or VIDEODISC)

Maybe someone here has a beta copy of these movies?? (Or maybe Videodisc copies)


Its sad you cant even get something like VHS and get analog quality on some movies!! (THEY PUT THE STUPID DIGITAL (DVD) MASTER ON THE TAPE)

All 3 tapes say "DIGITALLY RECORDED" on the box covers.....

Im wondering on BETA copies or VIDEODISC if they also are 'digitally recorded' to them also!!


Merci Beaucoup!!
 
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I just happen to have a Beta copy from 1986 in front of me (OK, I dug it out) and it says, "This videotape has been digitally mastered onto Hi Fi and digitally mixed from the original master analog tapes.".
 
Laserdisc is the last frontier for analog video.

Honestly, this is one place I have to soundly disagree with the notion of analog is better. I personally miss absolutely nothing about the video quality of low-def analog VHS tapes or Beta tapes. I also don't miss working on those machines. I'll keep my turntable, but I'm not getting another Betamax.
 
Sandy G said:
I'm still miffed they did away with/Kinescopes...(grin)
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Me, top. Seriously, I would LOVE to have a working Kinetoscope (which is what I think you actually mean). Very cool early technology, and a great conversation starter! :yes: :D

I could see it going very well with a nice Victrola. It would take some work to get the two devices "synched" (started at the same time), but just imagine! - sound AND picture! :yes: :D
 
Dude111 said:
Ya some people dont..... I love the original look and feel of what I always loved on TV.. (The good analog sound/picture)

I finally got a 100% analogue copy of back to the future a couple months back!! (Found it @ salvation army)


It was recorded from HBO in 1987 off analog cable -- Its absolutely beautiful!!
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If this is what floats your boat, so be it. :D
 
Dude111 said:
Ya some people dont..... I love the original look and feel of what I always loved on TV.. (The good analog sound/picture)

I finally got a 100% analogue copy of back to the future a couple months back!! (Found it @ salvation army)


It was recorded from HBO in 1987 off analog cable -- Its absolutely beautiful!!
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Wow, I missed that!
 
I did see that Quentin Tarantino lamented the demise of film theaters becoming digital projector theaters stating that the public is paying to watch TV in a theater. I am sure that he sees on film what we hear in vinyl or tape compared to CD. With that said, I have never considered analog 240 lines of VHS resolution and TV mono sound to be high end.

I do find black and white photography to be a unique medium though.
 
Beatnik said:
Laserdisc is analog ?????
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Yep. That's why it takes both sides of a 12" disc for a two hour movie. On later discs the sound is digital, but originally even that was analog.

From Wikipedia:

"Although appearing similar to compact discs or DVDs, LaserDiscs used analog video stored in the composite domain (having a video bandwidth approximately equivalent to the 1-inch C-Type VTR format) with analog FM stereo sound and some form of digital audio. However, despite its analog nature, the LaserDisc at its most fundamental level was still recorded as a series of pits and lands much like CDs, DVDs, and even Blu-ray Discs are today. Note however that although the encoding is of a binary nature, that does not make it digital since the information is encoded as analog pulse width modulation with a 50% duty cycle, with the information contained in the lengths and spacing of the pits. This is unlike digital media where the pits, or their edges, directly represent 1's and 0's. The spiral track of a LaserDisc is 42 miles (67 km) long. Early LaserDiscs featured in 1978 were entirely analog but the format evolved to incorporate digital stereo sound in CD format (sometimes with a TOSlink or coax output to feed an external DAC), and later multi-channel formats such as Dolby Digital and DTS."

Happy trails,
Larry B.
 
DVD players (most) have Component Video outputs (Red-Blue-Green), and the picture is @ 480i or 480p depending of the DVD disc (anamorphic or not). ...Digital picture.
The audio is 5.1 digital (DD or dts). ...Or 2-channel DD. ...Or analog (RCA stereo jacks).

Laser disc players have Composite Video (single RCA Yellow jack) and S-VHS (adding Luminosity separately from the Color | 4-pin jack) outputs, and the picture is @ 240, 360, or 480i (400)? ...Depending of the connection used. ...Analog picture.
The audio, digital. ...Or analog (RCA stereo jacks).

* Do some Laser Disc players have Component Video outputs? Sure some do; the ones that also play DVDs.

VCR players are analog; the picture is 240 lines or 360 (S-VHS VCR players). The audio is also analog.

Am I right, or just some? :)
 
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Blu-ray players have HDMI ... and the picture is high-def (1080i or 1080p). ...2K.

Some Blu-ray players can play 4K content (2160p). ...Ultra high-def.
Sony has some Ultra High-Def Movie Servers; where most content is, @ this point in time.

Online Netflix, Vudu, ... (downloads); it all depends. ...But lower than Blu-ray; picture and sound.
 
Here's the thing about digital:
You can take digital and make it look as crappy as VHS on a 25" Sylvania console TV if you want.
Can you take VHS and make it look as good as digital on ANY TV or monitor?
 
LordOfTRings said:
Laser disc players have Video and S-VHS outputs, and the picture is @ 240, 360, or 480i? ...Depending of the connection used. ...Analog picture.
The audio, digital. ...Or analog (RCA stereo jacks).
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Although some LD players have Svideo outputs, the signal is derived from the composite signal, which is the only video signal on the disc.

* Do some Laser Disc players have Component Video outputs? Sure some do; the ones that also play DVDs.
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Yes, but only for the DVD signal, not the LD signal.

VCR players are analog; the picture is 240 lines or 360 (S-VHS VCR players). The audio is also analog.

Am I right, or just some? :)
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The LD picture is roughly equivalent to 480i, although as I said the picture is strictly composite, so you'll never approach DVD quality...although some LDs look awfully good depending on your display.

Happy trails,
Larry B.
 
Sorry to hijack the thread.

If these are able to do analog audio, I wonder why audiophile lp's didn't go this route ? I can imagine a 12" clear plastic coated disc for analog audio at the house.
 
1tumbleweed said:
The LD picture is roughly equivalent to 480i, although as I said the picture is strictly composite, so you'll never approach DVD quality...although some LDs look awfully good depending on your display.

Happy trails,
Larry B.
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Where did you get that number? LD (NTSC) was 400 lines and most measured around 380, give or take.
 
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