Best Tonearm for warped records?
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But I don't see any reason to have a warped record in my collection in the first place. I mean records take up space, why pay for that storage of junk.
MisterDK
Addicted Member
‘Cause not everyone buys perfect records.. Some folks pick up the fitty-centers ‘cause they want to hear some tunes. ^_^
When they know it’s something they really want, the fitty-center gets swapped out for a nicer copy.
That said, my ol’ Rega RB300 tracks like a blood hound. However, the Jelco on my Systemdek does somersaults when my weiner dog romps by..
ejman
Super Member
Is that a 25 gram weight sitting on the headshell? Inquiring minds want to know. Amazing nonetheless.
ejman
Super Member
So true, cameraman is warped beyond redemption, he ain't never becoming stable
twiiii
Lunatic Member
It all has to do with the synergy between the tone arm, suspension of the cartridge and the turntable design. The best table I ever saw that I used to dub warped record was a tie more or less between ReVox Linear 795 and a Linear 4002 or 8000 B&O. They would leave my SME 3009 I II, III with different Shure Stantons and Ortofons crying uncle with warped records. I use to to dub records I would get from the local library back in the 60's. And quite a few were warped. I don't mean warps a fraction of the thick ness of the LP, but sharp warps a couple of times the thick ness of the record. Today If I get a record with what I call swells I tape then to the edge of the platter and then using a center weight I dub away to my Marantz professional CD recorder. Its with great satisfaction if I win the battle and the results sounds better than what I can stream off the net.
FinalVinyl
Active Member
warped? I toss it and find another one. remember the grooves are warped also
Whatever the tonearm is on the Rega Planar P3 does pretty good...I have an old original Meet The Beatles, and the new Chris Hillman album, both pretty badly
warped, but this tonearm with an ELAC 344 tracks them wonderfully, and I''ll be damned if I can hear any "wow."
warped, but this tonearm with an ELAC 344 tracks them wonderfully, and I''ll be damned if I can hear any "wow."
par4ken
Active Member
Back in the seventies I was caught up with the idea of zero tracking error and so purchased a Garrard Zero 100 turntable. Well it couldn't track warped records at all. When I graduated to a new turntable an inexpensive Connoisseur I purchased a Decca London International tonearm. That same arm has stayed with me to this day through several turntable upgrades.
There are very few records warped or not that it can't track.
There are very few records warped or not that it can't track.
Regarding the warped records one should discuss not the tonearms but the platters. There are several to choose from - with vacuum flattening, for example - the AT665 and AT666.
Any problem should be solved in its' root rather than in futile fight with problem's consequencies.
Any problem should be solved in its' root rather than in futile fight with problem's consequencies.
My SL-1200GR2 with an AT-VM740ML will play just about anything too (with no KAB damper). The Rega RB330 arm on my SRM-Tech table has never skipped either, even when trying out some hellishly warped records just for fun.My KAB fluid damped SL-1200M5G with a well matched AT-740ML will track through damn near anything.
tabarddn51
Super Member
Hi, The best arms for tracking warped LP's are Uni-Pivots. Simply because they are the most efficient. It does help though to have oil damping on most arms.
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Air Bearing Linear tracking tonearm.
Not the best or extreme example just the only ones I uploaded.
Most warps are not heard in the music.
The platter has a 17 thousands of an inch slope to it (Aka Goldmund) so most of the warp has already been eliminated.
Long tonearms are sonically inferior so I quit building them in the 80's.
Not the best or extreme example just the only ones I uploaded.
Most warps are not heard in the music.
The platter has a 17 thousands of an inch slope to it (Aka Goldmund) so most of the warp has already been eliminated.
Long tonearms are sonically inferior so I quit building them in the 80's.
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Thomas_AA
Well-Known Member
I would not really agree that the stylus is minimally perturbed. I would like to see the spectral plot of that movement.Air Bearing Linear tracking tonearm.
Not the best or extreme example just the only ones I uploaded.
Most warps are not heard in the music, You can see how the cartridge cantilever is minimally perturbed.
One of these tonearms with turntable will be found on ebay in a few days.
mr_petit
High on Vinyl
I also hardly call that a warp.
I mean it's not good but compared to certain warps found it's not exactly the mount everest.
For a tonearm to play a warp, any form of movement damping (fluid. biotracer etc) also isn't ideal. It greatly raises the VTF in the upslope and lowers it in the downslope.
Ideally you'd want a long, light tonearm without damping.
But the best way to combat warps is of course with a vacuum platter. Problem solved!
I mean it's not good but compared to certain warps found it's not exactly the mount everest.
For a tonearm to play a warp, any form of movement damping (fluid. biotracer etc) also isn't ideal. It greatly raises the VTF in the upslope and lowers it in the downslope.
Ideally you'd want a long, light tonearm without damping.
But the best way to combat warps is of course with a vacuum platter. Problem solved!