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Best way to run signal from new tech to old

Sensel

Sensel

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I have a new(ish) Yamaha AV receiver. It is fine for TV and movies and even music (actually, it is more than fine). But, I have an old analogue RCA only Pioneer receiver I would like to use too with some old speakers. Because, nostalgia or whatever you want to call it…
I only have one room this can all happen in. Otherwise, if I was rich, I would be driving around in my Bleu Chiaro Ferrari 250 Luso and just pay someone to install a system for me. But that ain't going to happen…
I'll plug the CD player and turntable into the Pioneer.
For music streaming from iMac or direct from Pandora, I have an Apple TV (HDMI model only).
The ATV runs right into the AV receiver (now) only via HDMI. But the AV receiver also has analogue RCA out too.
Presumably, I can run RCA from the AV receiver outs to the Pioneer RCA tape level inputs. Essentially bringing the ATV, via the receiver DAC to the Pioneer and the speakers hooked up to it. (The AV receiver will have its own speakers.)
Right? This should work… right?
Sorry, just have never done this before…
 
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Depends. Some, if not many or all, units will not pass HDMI audio out of the analog outputs like Rec Out.
 
whoaru99 said:
Depends. Some, if not many or all, units will not pass HDMI audio out of the analog outputs like Rec Out.
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How can you tell if an AVR has that capability? What is that capability called? HDMI to analogue pass through? or digital pass through or something else? Thanks!
 
It's probably in the manual somewhere but finding it may be another matter. Might be easier just to try it anyway.

For example, from a Yamaha RX-V1700 I use in one setup:

• Audio signals input at the HDMI IN jacks are not output at the
analog AUDIO OUT and DIGITAL OUTPUT jacks.
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If the receiver has actual front pre-outs you'd get signal there, but it will be altered by whatever configuration settings you have for the front speaker setup. Such as, high pass filter/bass management, room correction/eq, volume control setting, etc.
 
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I looked in the manual but, other then audio out existing for RCA plugs, it did not say one way or the other. I think I will ask this as well in the Yamaha section as it is more likely a Yamaha fanatic might have this newer AV (or similar model) plus old analog stuff plugged into it along with HDMI audio coming in.
Thanks!
 
I think the concern with passing the audio is making copies of the high resolution stream that can be carried by HDMI.
 
whoaru99 said:
I think the concern with passing the audio is making copies of the high resolution stream that can be carried by HDMI.
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True but, one could also buy a cheap DAC and convert to copy. Copying from a CD would be easier though…
In this case, it is more a consumer feature rather then a thief's feature. If anything, I think if any system does not do it, it is more out of the engineers just not doing it. After all, how many people want to send digital audio to the built in DAC and then out via RCA to 1980s amps? Not a lot. If they do, they have a dedicated system. My problem is space. Just the one room, one space to put all this. Would like to keep it simple. But it might not be… ;)
 
Sensel said:
True but, one could also buy a cheap DAC and convert to copy. Copying from a CD would be easier though…
In this case, it is more a consumer feature rather then a thief's feature. If anything, I think if any system does not do it, it is more out of the engineers just not doing it. After all, how many people want to send digital audio to the built in DAC and then out via RCA to 1980s amps? Not a lot. If they do, they have a dedicated system. My problem is space. Just the one room, one space to put all this. Would like to keep it simple. But it might not be… ;)
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Didn't say it was right or wrong. Simply "is". :)

Big companies generally have little choice but to play by the rules set forth in standards of HDMI HDCP certification/compliance.

With little effort one can find HDMI audio de-embedders, I think they're called.
 
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