Black Gate capacitors

[Mike Mag]

I was being sarcastic. As a practicing EE, I can say with certainty that it was not over my head at all.

I was not amused
the internet does not convey humor or sarcasm well

 

[Mike Mag]

Dang! Mike- if Egellings were sitting next to you could you have said it differently?

The internet is not a good medium for sarcasm
people should know that by now

 

[DesertRatt]

Call the Panasonic private label salesman. Order 10,000 capacitors of a few key sizes. Hire a graphics artist to design a super cool, elegant-looking label and logo for your new super high-end brand of exotic capacitors. Panasonic will roll them with your new super-cool label. Make a web site. Invent a pseudo-science "theory" about how these capacitors work and give that theory a cool name. Hire a "bot farm" to post 100,000 impressions on every social media site raving about your new audiophile capacitors. Price them at 10X the normal Panasonic price. Stand back and be prepared to be rolling in money.

 

[borchee]

WHOA!

was the article above your intelligence level ?

Is answering the question in post #4 above yours?

 

[Mike Mag]

I most certainly regret asking a good question
it has not been worth all the abuse I have gotten so far

 

[Mike Mag]

Perhaps a moderator can close this discussion so I don’t have to deal with attack after attack for a simple question

 

[borchee]

You asked for opinions.
You got them.
You're the one who got personal.

And now you're whinning?!

And no, you're not the one to judge the quality of your question.

 

[Mike Mag]

You asked for opinions.
You got them.
You're the one who got personal.

And now you're whinning?!

And no, you're not the one to judge the quality of your question.

That’s a pathetic opinion

 

[borchee]

It ain't an opinion.

Rather to push this further, you'd be better off answering my question. Perhaps you missed it - this one I mean:

How do you know your circuits are capable of exploting the Black Gate advance to the full - or to any noticeable level for that matter?

 

[Mike Mag]

It ain't an opinion.

Rather to push this further, you'd be better off answering my question. Perhaps you missed it - this one I mean:

where did I make that claim?????

here is my original post

I have read very few nice comments about black gate caps, they almost all seem to bash them in one form or another

I just came across this article that says they are outstanding

I would like to hear from people that dont like them as to what their opinion is based on

I am curious because I have a few components with BG caps and it doesn’t seem like I can replace them and expect to get an improvement. Just recapped my Rotel 990 power amp and I did not consider replacing the BG caps only ordinary caps

 

[borchee]

You're using the article as some kind of reference and I'm asking you to read the last paragraph. Doesn't it bother you one bit?

 

[Mike Mag]

You're using the article as some kind of reference and I'm asking you to read the last paragraph. Doesn't it bother you one bit?

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ONCE AGAIN, I am asking for opinions from those who dont like BG caps

 

[borchee]

ONCE AGAIN, I am asking for opinions from those who dont like BG caps

ONCE AGAIN, you got more than one. And the article is one of the reasons to not like them.

 

[Lux Man]

ONCE AGAIN, I am asking for opinions from those who dont like BG caps

Mike we all knew what your question was and as I said in my post #2 you’ll never get a consensus of information on something like this. If I started a post and said who likes this particular amp or that particular amp, there will be those who say it’s junk and they’ll be those who say it’s a great amp. All of our experiences are different as are our ears. My point is we can’t agree and understandably so even on a finished piece of equipment and you’re asking about changing out one component. There are just too many variables if you put the best cap in the world in a crummy amplifier, it’s not going make it sound much if any better. If somebody doesn’t like the sound of those caps it may not be the cap it could be them. Rarely if ever does anyone or can anyone make a scientific provable case? There are probably hundreds, maybe even thousands of threads here regarding capacitors and does this sound better than that. I’ll be flat out, honest with you guys. It was only out of curiosity that I followed this but part of me wouldn’t be disappointed if they disallowed capacitor discussions to begin with because we all know what happens.

 

[egellings]

Have one that was pulled from an 80's amp a decade ago, was still within spec then. Should check it again. Saw it yesterday "in the stash." 100uf/ 6.3v

I'll bet that a Panasonic or Nichicon would still be good, too.

 

[egellings]

Dang! Mike- if Egellings were sitting next to you could you have s

Dang! Mike- if Egellings were sitting next to you could you have said it differently?

I wouldn't punch him.

 

[Buck Rogers]

Unfortunately at the time Black Gates were available systems were fairly low in resolution compared to now.

Same for high priced DAC's, Transports and cartridges. We could not really hear a definitive improvement.

Sold my Wadia WT2000 because I could not hear the difference between it and an Esoteric P-10.

Dummy~! Now the difference between a P-10 2,000$ in 1991 and P-2 @ 4,000$ in 1991 is mind bending,

The Wadia was 8,000$ in 1998 similar to the Spectral all are Teac VRDS transports.

Panasonic made some audiophile grade electrolytic caps that used Bamboo paper for insulation.

Recently went from Mundorf Aluminum/Oil caps to Mundorf/Gold/Silver/Oil caps in my tube preamp...

Preamplifier uses Pure Platinum wire for signal and pure Silver for everything else.

I AM A BELIEVER~!

It's kind of what I imagined 100,000$ speakers would sound like but never do.

Buck

 

[w3jn]

Hmmm.... arguing and insulting each other about capacitors. Certainly not in the spirit of AK. This thread has had its day.