Can you identify these speakers?

[ashevillebob]

I got these at GW yesterday for $6. They are roughly the same size as Dynaco a25's(sitting on top of a a25) but are more shallow(only 7 1/2"). They have solid wood sides that have rounded off corners and front edges and plywood motor boards and backs. They don't appear to be home made although a very good carpenter could have cased them up I guess? The crossover looks factory and has a printed label with only speaker connection intructions and 8 ohms like a dynaco would have. The 10" woofer is seas and I think the tweeter (1" dome, smaller than a standard a-25 and not sticky) is too, from the feel of the sticker on the back (I have not taken tweeter out yet cause of the square slot head screws).
Maybe they're Scandyna or a newer model of dynaco that I haven't seen before? They do have a aperiodic slot below the woofer like the A-25s but the thick felt is covering it up(thin black felt first layer, with thick grey felt over the top covering right up to the edge of each speaker). The cloth covers have black piping that sounded the cloth and rolled in like installing a screen in a window frame(strange). The piping is like shoe string.
Can anyone put a label on these babys? More photos if you need them.

 

[cincy]

I do remember seeing SEAS speakers in the '70s and they looked very similar to what you have.

 

[ashevillebob]

more photos I'm listening to these speakers now and they sound like my A-25s but with higher tweeter capability and better midrange control, and I still need to recap 'em. I thought some bass would be lost with the shallower cabinet, but I think they are the same. They don't seem to have a higher efficientcy in volume, but the crossover has an inductor that a A-25 doesn't.
What are they?

 

[kfa888]

Dunno but look very high quality :thmbsp:

 

[hifi_nut]

That´s the same Seas tweeter as used in my Celef ( ProAc ) Domestic Monitor II´s.

The mid / bass driver has a "made in Norway" sticker, with the word SEAS appearing fainted in the background.

I can´t tell exactly what speaker that is, but one thing I do know, it´s certainly very nice sounding.

Jorge

 

[sealy]

I'd say they are Dynacos. Different magnets, though, from the ones I have seen.

 

[Rolf Zetterberg]

The wood doesn't seem Scandinavian to me,but almost like it comes from somewhere in the Far East.
Robertson screws are never used in Scandinavia,but mainly in Canada.
The woofer has a pretty late date-1982.It's the late version of the 25F-EW.
What about any markings on the xover components?The text on the masonite piece-what does it say?

 

[ashevillebob]

The woofer sticker reads 25F-EW H085 22/82. Madisound sells this as a replacement woofer for Dynaco A-25's. These speakers are not new though, so maybe Dynaco or Scandyna used the woofers in speaker production and the 22/82 on the label is the 22nd week of 1982? Anyhow, I really like the speakers. I've never seen a rounded corner Dynaco though, which makes me think they were for the European market?
I just took out on of the tweeters which reads, 1" dome H267 8ohm 10/84 made in Norway (SEAS background on sticker).

 

[ashevillebob]

The text on the masonite reads just that, "masonite". I know what you mean Rolf, about the cabinet looking Asian , like old plywood Akai or pioneer cabinets. These are a little better pieced together than that, with rabbited (cut channels) in the solid wood box (not veneer) sides that hold the plywood panels front and back. The plywood also looks non Asian, meaning that it is 5/8" thick on the back panel and heavy weight (5 laminations of dense wood). The old asian plywood usually had that spongy core like paneling and where thinner.

 

[hypertone]

They are cool as hell whatever they are. :thmbsp:

 

[ashevillebob]

I've been seachin' the web and found similar tweeters on the Seas speakers site, but not the H267. Maybe when the Seas site comes back up I can ask them what speaker builder they were sold to. A google search of this tweeter turns up nothing.

 

[Nat]

It seems to me that Panor (the company who brought the Stereo 70 and Pas 3 back into production in the 90s) also brought the A 25 back. Could your speakers be those?

 

[ashevillebob]

Somebodies gotta recognize these Dynaco- ish speakers. I'm gonna put up a few more photos. Please challenge anyone who might know. There are distictive markings on the plywood that are in the photo that must pinpoint country of orgin. The two piggybacked caps are "rubycon" 4uf 50v each (so the 8uf total for the two is the standard for late dynaco a25 ). The tweeter annuator is marked "japan" on the black plastic and 8 ohms and thats it(it is a micro step rather than a 3 or 5 stepped resistor switch, so I guess it is technically a L-pad?) The crossover masonite board has a universal sticker that shows that it could also be used as a three way crossover board if another knob hole is needed. Everything about the speaker says factory made to me (crossover staples, cabinet construction, wiring is dynaco copy). The only strange thing is the pink fiberglass is covered in sawdust, which tells me that the factory was not clean or the holes were cut after the stuffing was installed or the holes were rabbited out of step or something?
Do late dynaco a25s have an inductor coil for the 25f-ew woofer? This one does.

 

[twocoaster]

These do look neat, and I bet sound is good too. I particularly like the image of the wine goblet next to the crossover

Somebodies gotta recognize these Dynaco- ish speakers. I'm gonna put up a few more photos. Please challenge anyone who might know. There are distictive markings on the plywood that are in the photo that must pinpoint country of orgin. The two piggybacked caps are "rubycon" 4uf 50v each (so the 8uf total for the two is the standard for late dynaco a25 ). The tweeter annuator is marked "japan" on the black plastic and 8 ohms and thats it(it is a micro step rather than a 3 or 5 stepped resistor switch, so I guess it is technically a L-pad?) The crossover masonite board has a universal sticker that shows that it could also be used as a three way crossover board if another knob hole is needed. Everything about the speaker says factory made to me (crossover staples, cabinet construction, wiring is dynaco copy). The only strange thing is the pink fiberglass is covered in sawdust, which tells me that the factory was not clean or the holes were cut after the stuffing was installed or the holes were rabbited out of step or something?
Do late dynaco a25s have an inductor coil for the 25f-ew woofer? This one does.

 

[ashevillebob]

I've got beer in my glass! :thmbsp: Thanks, Coaster!

 

[ashevillebob]

Starting to suspect they are not factory boxes!

I think these babies are not factory now. After carefully looking at the crossover boards, the staples that hold them in are not the first staples to have been in them. I can faintly see where a knife blade has pryed out the old staples.
So I guess Im just looking to see what the drivers and crossovers were pulled out of. Maybe the later US Dynaco made speakers like the a100 may have used these drivers. That would explain the 1982 and 1984 dates on the drivers and the l-pad instead of the 5 position switch with resistors?

 

[hypertone]

They have to be DIY, there is a midrange on the panel with the tweeter attenuator, but these are only 2 way. The markings on the plywood inside for a wine glass is pretty odd for a factory speaker. And also the Robertson screws would indicate they are not made in Europe, but Canada. That said, someone did a first rate job building them...VERY NICE! I'll bet they sound very nice.

 

[dread31]

They look very nice, but I'm beginning to think they may be home built. Or, at least modified by someone at sometime. That would explain the sawdust in the fiberglass.
Would a factory build a speaker with a backboard that appears to have been some sort of shipping crate in it's former life?

I dunno, that's an odd one you have there.

Dave

 

[dread31]

Yeah, I'd say they are DIY. But, if they sound good, who cares?

I find the thick felt on the driver baffle intriguing.

Wonder why they didn't cut an opening in it for the port?

Dave